[Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

Christian Semmens christian.semmens at gmail.com
Wed Feb 6 10:59:59 GMT 2013


Hi Craig,

I have your "A Concise Dictionary of Cornish Place-Names". I was going to
use that.
However, I'd prefer KS to the SWF mess.

Christian


On 6 February 2013 10:35, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org> wrote:

> Which orthography do you intend to use, Christian?  SWF/T?  KS?  Or the
> compromise one I used in "A Concise Dictionary of Cornish Place-Names"?
>
> If I know, I can supply you with a list of names from the West Penwith
> parishes I've so far completed (given time to type it all out!)
>
> Craig
>
> On 2013 Whe 5, at 22:57, Herbie Blackburn wrote:
>
> ** ** **
>
> Christian – what stage is this at as it were – what content have you added?
> ****
>
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>
> I have to zoom to 500% to be able to read the text – is it possible to
> scale the text as a whole for the map, and other content, like road widths
> etc? I imagine you are still getting to grips with the features.****
>
> ** **
>
> Will this essential place all the data, and then the look/feel can be
> adjusted to suit scale and style decided upon?****
>
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>
> Regards****
>
> ** **
>
> Herbie****
>
> eMail: kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com****
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> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Christian
> Semmens
> *Sent:* 05 February 2013 17:12
> *To:* **Standard Cornish discussion list**
> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
>
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>
> Hi, apologies to those on dial-up (if there are any these days)****
>
> a 6.3MB SVG file with a few artifacts, but detailed enough to give you an
> idea of what is possible.****
>
> The coastline is a little flooded, but all the roiads and paths are
> clearly visible.****
>
> ** **
>
> You can't do anything with this file other than look at it, but that is a
> start. You will need something that can show SVG files, I believe most
> browsers can do that, but it may make your browser choke as it is so big.
> But this is just the first step.****
>
> Good luck!****
>
> Christian****
>
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>
> On 5 February 2013 16:41, Christian Semmens <christian.semmens at gmail.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Sounds good, It is the backgrounds that are going to prove interesting. **
> **
>
> I did a quick download and am partway through a render to an SVG image
> file, but I think it must be a HUGE file as it has been going for half the
> day and shows no signs of stopping anytime soon.****
>
> If it does work I will see if I can mail it out. This is a first stab and
> will be basically an OSM map of **West Penwith**, but it shoudl show us
> what is possible with the data we have. It might have everything on it in
> which case it will be as cluttered as hell (in which case I won't send it),
> but we will just have to wait and see.****
>
> If it is too large perhaps we could start with the Scillies, a
> geographically much smaller area?****
>
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>
> Christian****
>
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>
> On 5 February 2013 16:23, e-mail kevin.blackburn1 <
> kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:****
>
> If, as a first step, a set of sites, a route and suitable labels can be
> sorted/agreed for the Lergh an Yeth, then Christian could get the symbol
> and bilingual labels onto the map as the second step. The steps 3/4 could
> be the leaflet/guidebook, and the plaques themselves.****
>
> ** **
>
> Christian, let me know if you need a hand with anything (in parallel to
> your first steps with OpenStreetMap I downloaded the Miniscale OS Opendata
> maps - they are quite good too for overlaying of features you want; but I
> did not get very far or technical, mainly considered using it as a backdrop
> vector for new graphics and text layers).****
>
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>
> Regards****
>
> ** **
>
> Herbie****
>
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>
> On 5 February 2013 15:17, Ken MacKinnon <ken at ferintosh.org> wrote:****
>
> *A gowtha ker,*****
>
> * *****
>
> *I was going to add to an earlier email that if a Cornish language map
> was brought out that one of the symbols might indeed be such sites that I
> have suggested should constitute a ‘Cornish Language Trail /  Lergh an
> Yeth.  I floated this idea some years ago and felt that the sites
> themselves should be signboarded / blue plaqued bilingually with
> accompanying guide book / leaflets.    Something similar has been initiated
> here with the Gaelic Rings projects and has involved tourist, travel and
> transport undertakings and commissioned authors.*****
>
> * *****
>
> -        *An ken Ken.*****
>
> * *****
>
> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Janice
> Lobb
> *Sent:* 05 February 2013 11:37****
>
>
> *To:* **Standard Cornish discussion list**
> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
>
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>
> At some stage it would be really nice to have a sort of "pilgrimage" map
> that showed all the places where people can see some Cornish  and
> where people significant in the revival lived, etc.****
>
>  ****
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Herbie Blackburn <
> kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:****
>
> Craig, Ken, Christian hag oll,****
>
>  ****
>
> I may just have a go at this when I have some time – I have some
> ‘semi-professional’ graphics skills, producing tomes / posters for client’s
> significant birthdays, and have the software to do this. I also have a
> friend who has produced published maps of our local area. I’d have to
> research the legal / copyright situation with regard to getting an accurate
> layout of Cornwall, and symbols etc. that I can use (probably by use of the
> OS Opendata facility), and also rely on you all for direction / objectives
> for the project, content editing, feedback and so on.****
>
>  ****
>
> This would be after my daughters wedding and subject to a lot of issues
> that I might have the time to resolve – I’m confident I could produce
> something, I’m just not 100% familiar with the legal side, and how we go
> about including content that is obviously not 100% original.****
>
>  ****
>
> What do people think? If someone more qualified is keen to take this on,
> then please don’t hesitate, but I do like a challenge.****
>
>  ****
>
> Regards****
>
>  ****
>
> Herbie****
>
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> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Christian
> Semmens****
>
>
> *Sent:* 04 February 2013 13:21****
>
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>
> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
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>
> I think that is an excellent idea Herbie, a folded map and a poster size
> one would be great... All we need is an artist.  :)****
>
> Christian****
>
>  ****
>
> On 4 February 2013 12:35, Herbie Blackburn <kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:****
>
> Excited to have received my copy of Craig’s ‘A Concise Dictionary of
> Cornish Place-Names’. Looks very comprehensive and well researched, and
> looking forward to reading it and then having it by for reference.****
>
> Following on from the maps’ **email**s, any thought of producing a
> Cornish Place-Name Map based on the contents of this book? It could be a
> great additional asset, and may even be an attractive tourist souvenir if
> pitched right. I could imagine picking one up at one of those many whirly
> book/card stands in the shops of ****Cornwall****, especially it had the
> air of authenticity the book has.****
>
> Regards****
>
> Herbie****
>
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