[Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

Ken MacKinnon ken at ferintosh.org
Wed Feb 6 11:39:32 GMT 2013


Jenefer, and colleagues, 

 

That is excellent news of progress on the idea of a language trail.   I am
delighted that my earlier suggestions and forward of relevant Gaelic
literature has borne fruit.   One of the texts I have lived by is
Ecclesiastes 11.1: 'Cast your bread upon the waters and after many days it
shall return unto you again.'   I am sure that this one will bear much fruit
- and my congratulations in getting this project under way.   In the past I
have suggested both Lergh an Yeth, and Forth an Yeth for this idea.   The
former is of course literally the Language Trail.  The second might be more
copeable for non-Cornish language users.  I appreciate the point about not
publicising until the initiatives materialise - so meanwhile shall stay
stumm.

 

This also prompts me to add in the work of the Partnership's Place-names and
Signage Panel.  This would be an obvious basic resource for any mapping
projects.

 

Best wishes in all your endeavours - Ken

 

 

 

From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Lowe
Jenefer
Sent: 05 February 2013 17:52
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

 

May I just note that most of the research and work on a 'blue plaque' trail
for the language has already been done. A potential overarching scheme for
cultural 'blue plaques' in Cornwall has been in development and the Cornish
language trail (inspired by the Gaidhlig publications Ken sent us a while
back) has been put forward by us as a discrete section within the wider
project, with its own leaflets and guidebooks. If the funding does not
materialise and the full scheme does not go forward, then we shall look at
other ways of implementing the language part in its own right, but obviously
there is sense in working co-operatively to start with - especially if that
results in funding. I will keep the group posted on progress, but there
seems little point in duplicating the initial research at this stage.  As
you will realise, we do not publicise projects if they are still waiting on
funding applications, especially where the full project is not entirely
ours, so I would be grateful if you would treat this as privileged
information and I will update you as and when I can. We will also be
checking for any omissions anyone can spot in the work done once we know
where we are with it and would much appreciate your input at that stage.

 

Yn lel,

 

Jenefer Lowe

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Cornish Language Partnership / Keskowethyans an Taves Kernewek

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From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of e-mail
kevin.blackburn1
Sent: 05 February 2013 16:24
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

 

If, as a first step, a set of sites, a route and suitable labels can be
sorted/agreed for the Lergh an Yeth, then Christian could get the symbol and
bilingual labels onto the map as the second step. The steps 3/4 could be the
leaflet/guidebook, and the plaques themselves.

 

Christian, let me know if you need a hand with anything (in parallel to your
first steps with OpenStreetMap I downloaded the Miniscale OS Opendata maps -
they are quite good too for overlaying of features you want; but I did not
get very far or technical, mainly considered using it as a backdrop vector
for new graphics and text layers).

 

Regards

 

Herbie

 

On 5 February 2013 15:17, Ken MacKinnon <ken at ferintosh.org> wrote:

A gowtha ker,

 

I was going to add to an earlier email that if a Cornish language map was
brought out that one of the symbols might indeed be such sites that I have
suggested should constitute a 'Cornish Language Trail /  Lergh an Yeth.  I
floated this idea some years ago and felt that the sites themselves should
be signboarded / blue plaqued bilingually with accompanying guide book /
leaflets.    Something similar has been initiated here with the Gaelic Rings
projects and has involved tourist, travel and transport undertakings and
commissioned authors.

 

-        An ken Ken.

 

From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Janice
Lobb
Sent: 05 February 2013 11:37


To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

 

At some stage it would be really nice to have a sort of "pilgrimage" map
that showed all the places where people can see some Cornish  and where
people significant in the revival lived, etc.

 

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Herbie Blackburn
<kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:

Craig, Ken, Christian hag oll,

 

I may just have a go at this when I have some time - I have some
'semi-professional' graphics skills, producing tomes / posters for client's
significant birthdays, and have the software to do this. I also have a
friend who has produced published maps of our local area. I'd have to
research the legal / copyright situation with regard to getting an accurate
layout of Cornwall, and symbols etc. that I can use (probably by use of the
OS Opendata facility), and also rely on you all for direction / objectives
for the project, content editing, feedback and so on.

 

This would be after my daughters wedding and subject to a lot of issues that
I might have the time to resolve - I'm confident I could produce something,
I'm just not 100% familiar with the legal side, and how we go about
including content that is obviously not 100% original.

 

What do people think? If someone more qualified is keen to take this on,
then please don't hesitate, but I do like a challenge.

 

Regards

 

Herbie

 

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From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of
Christian Semmens


Sent: 04 February 2013 13:21

To: Standard Cornish discussion list

Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

 

I think that is an excellent idea Herbie, a folded map and a poster size one
would be great... All we need is an artist.  :)

Christian

 

On 4 February 2013 12:35, Herbie Blackburn <kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com>
wrote:

Excited to have received my copy of Craig's 'A Concise Dictionary of Cornish
Place-Names'. Looks very comprehensive and well researched, and looking
forward to reading it and then having it by for reference.

Following on from the maps' emails, any thought of producing a Cornish
Place-Name Map based on the contents of this book? It could be a great
additional asset, and may even be an attractive tourist souvenir if pitched
right. I could imagine picking one up at one of those many whirly book/card
stands in the shops of Cornwall, especially it had the air of authenticity
the book has.

Regards

Herbie

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