[Spellyans] Place-Names & maps

Janice Lobb janicelobb at gmail.com
Sat Feb 9 14:11:05 GMT 2013


Thanks Craig. That is both interesting and useful. I am making a point of
including place names in every one of my most recent series of lessons
Jan


On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org>wrote:

> Herewith the place-names for Sennen parish, pretty well consistent with
> the orthography used in "A Concise Dictionary of Cornish Place-Names".
>
> In a few days, I'll scan and send a annotated plan of the Longships reef,
> as the OS and Admiralty charts have applied names to some of the rocks
> wrongly.  I have the older Sennen fishermen to thank for showing me what's
> correct.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
>
> On 2013 Whe 8, at 13:28, Craig Weatherhill wrote:
>
> Do Sennen parish, which includes Land's End (remember we had the Cornish
> name removed for the Olympic torch debacle).  I'll supply you with all the
> names later on.
>
> Craig
>
>
> On 2013 Whe 6, at 12:49, Christian Semmens wrote:
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> I'll make a much smaller one, perhaps starting with Tresco or St Marys,
> That way you should be able to download it and see it. This first one was
> simply a test and full of unnecessary detail, which is why it is so big.
>
> Christian
>
>
>
>
> On 6 February 2013 11:49, Ken MacKinnon <ken at ferintosh.org> wrote:
>
>> *Christian / Herbie, and friends.*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *‘Broad’band here runs at 0.477 m/ps download and 0.230  upload – so I
>> am not making much progress  with this one and shall probably have to abort
>> it.*
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *Thanks nevertheless - Ken*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Christian
>> Semmens
>>
>> *Sent:* 05 February 2013 17:12
>> *To:* Standard Cornish discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hi, apologies to those on dial-up (if there are any these days)****
>>
>> a 6.3MB SVG file with a few artifacts, but detailed enough to give you an
>> idea of what is possible.****
>>
>> The coastline is a little flooded, but all the roiads and paths are
>> clearly visible.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> You can't do anything with this file other than look at it, but that is a
>> start. You will need something that can show SVG files, I believe most
>> browsers can do that, but it may make your browser choke as it is so big.
>> But this is just the first step.****
>>
>> Good luck!****
>>
>> Christian****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 16:41, Christian Semmens <christian.semmens at gmail.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Sounds good, It is the backgrounds that are going to prove interesting. *
>> ***
>>
>> I did a quick download and am partway through a render to an SVG image
>> file, but I think it must be a HUGE file as it has been going for half the
>> day and shows no signs of stopping anytime soon.****
>>
>> If it does work I will see if I can mail it out. This is a first stab and
>> will be basically an OSM map of West Penwith, but it shoudl show us what is
>> possible with the data we have. It might have everything on it in which
>> case it will be as cluttered as hell (in which case I won't send it), but
>> we will just have to wait and see.****
>>
>> If it is too large perhaps we could start with the Scillies, a
>> geographically much smaller area?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Christian****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 16:23, e-mail kevin.blackburn1 <
>> kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:****
>>
>> If, as a first step, a set of sites, a route and suitable labels can be
>> sorted/agreed for the Lergh an Yeth, then Christian could get the symbol
>> and bilingual labels onto the map as the second step. The steps 3/4 could
>> be the leaflet/guidebook, and the plaques themselves.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Christian, let me know if you need a hand with anything (in parallel to
>> your first steps with OpenStreetMap I downloaded the Miniscale OS Opendata
>> maps - they are quite good too for overlaying of features you want; but I
>> did not get very far or technical, mainly considered using it as a backdrop
>> vector for new graphics and text layers).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Herbie****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On 5 February 2013 15:17, Ken MacKinnon <ken at ferintosh.org> wrote:****
>>
>> *A gowtha ker,*****
>>
>> * *****
>>
>> *I was going to add to an earlier email that if a Cornish language map
>> was brought out that one of the symbols might indeed be such sites that I
>> have suggested should constitute a ‘Cornish Language Trail /  Lergh an
>> Yeth.  I floated this idea some years ago and felt that the sites
>> themselves should be signboarded / blue plaqued bilingually with
>> accompanying guide book / leaflets.    Something similar has been initiated
>> here with the Gaelic Rings projects and has involved tourist, travel and
>> transport undertakings and commissioned authors.*****
>>
>> * *****
>>
>> -        *An ken Ken.*****
>>
>> * *****
>>
>> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Janice
>> Lobb
>> *Sent:* 05 February 2013 11:37****
>>
>>
>> *To:* Standard Cornish discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> At some stage it would be really nice to have a sort of "pilgrimage" map
>> that showed all the places where people can see some Cornish  and
>> where people significant in the revival lived, etc.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Herbie Blackburn <
>> kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Craig, Ken, Christian hag oll,****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I may just have a go at this when I have some time – I have some
>> ‘semi-professional’ graphics skills, producing tomes / posters for client’s
>> significant birthdays, and have the software to do this. I also have a
>> friend who has produced published maps of our local area. I’d have to
>> research the legal / copyright situation with regard to getting an accurate
>> layout of Cornwall, and symbols etc. that I can use (probably by use of the
>> OS Opendata facility), and also rely on you all for direction / objectives
>> for the project, content editing, feedback and so on.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> This would be after my daughters wedding and subject to a lot of issues
>> that I might have the time to resolve – I’m confident I could produce
>> something, I’m just not 100% familiar with the legal side, and how we go
>> about including content that is obviously not 100% original.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> What do people think? If someone more qualified is keen to take this on,
>> then please don’t hesitate, but I do like a challenge.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Herbie****
>>
>>  ****
>>
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>> *From:* Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] *On Behalf Of *Christian
>> Semmens****
>>
>>
>> *Sent:* 04 February 2013 13:21****
>>
>> *To:* Standard Cornish discussion list****
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Spellyans] Place-Names & maps****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> I think that is an excellent idea Herbie, a folded map and a poster size
>> one would be great... All we need is an artist.  :)****
>>
>> Christian****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> On 4 February 2013 12:35, Herbie Blackburn <kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:****
>>
>> Excited to have received my copy of Craig’s ‘A Concise Dictionary of
>> Cornish Place-Names’. Looks very comprehensive and well researched, and
>> looking forward to reading it and then having it by for reference.****
>>
>> Following on from the maps’ emails, any thought of producing a Cornish
>> Place-Name Map based on the contents of this book? It could be a great
>> additional asset, and may even be an attractive tourist souvenir if pitched
>> right. I could imagine picking one up at one of those many whirly book/card
>> stands in the shops of Cornwall, especially it had the air of authenticity
>> the book has.****
>>
>> Regards****
>>
>> Herbie****
>>
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