[Spellyans] cledh etc

Daniel Prohaska daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Sat Jan 12 18:28:23 GMT 2013


But Craig, you value plave name evidence and spellings with <eu, oe, u-e, u> in place names point towards an earlier Middle Cornish *cleudh. 
Dan

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On 12.01.2013, at 13:28, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org> wrote:

> In my own view, there's no call for -eu- in this word (SWF, KK), other than the fact that Breton has <kleuz> (Welsh has <clawdd>).  There's not much sign of it before the Late Cornish period.
> 
> It's <cleath> in CW and <kledh> in Lhuyd.  There is just one -eu- in place-name spellings - the Bolster Bank, St Agnes was Cleuth 1602, Cleath, Clay 1733; Kleth 1740; Cleath, Kleth 1778.
> 
> It also occurs in the compounds  mengleth "quarry"; and mongleth, "open-cast mine".
> 
> Craig
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> On 2013 Gen 11, at 22:45, Janice Lobb wrote:
> 
>> Dick has  clêdh for a ditch, dyke, trench, cutting, drain and meangledh for quarry
>> 
>> whereas SWF has mengleudh for quarry
>> 
>> and dowrgleudh for canal
>> 
>> Dick has ancledhi for to bury, to inter,
>> 
>> cledhez for buried, “ditched”
>> 
>> ancladhvah for burial place, cemetery
>> 
>> ancledhiaz for interment
>> 
>> while SWF has ynkleudhyas for to bury
>> 
>> ynkladhva for cemetery, graveyard
>> 
>> ynkleudhyans for burial, funeral
>> 
>> I prefer the look of Dick’s,  
>> 
>> but Q1 is the –eu- vowel justified in SWF?
>> 
>> and Q2 is there any connection with sword cledha/kledha?
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