[Spellyans] cledh etc

Daniel Prohaska daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Mon Jan 14 11:48:08 GMT 2013


So Welsh orthography derogates against speakers of Southern Welsh dialects where ‹u›, too, is pronounced /i/?
Dan


On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jon Mills wrote:

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> Pronouncing <u> as [iː]~[i] is counter-intuitive. Such prescription is not helpful to learners of RLC and derogates against the RLC community.
> Ol an gwella,
> Jon
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Michael Everson
>> Sent: 01/13/13 05:12 PM
>> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] cledh etc
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>> On 13 Jan 2013, at 10:07, Janice Lobb <janicelobb at gmail.com> wrote: 
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>> > I'm glad you didn't opt for /ue/ which would have been even further from what I would like for Late Cornish. It is the presence of the letter /u/ that causes pronunciation problems. I know this debate is about spelling, but lurking in the background is pronunciation, about which we have no direct evidence. Is it fair that Late Cornish learners have a harder job than Middle Cornish learners in reconciling what they see with what comes out of their mouths? 
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>> That is why we distinguish ‹u› which is pronounced [iː]~[i] in Late Cornish from ‹û›/‹ù› which is pronounced [uː]~[ʊ] in Late Cornish. 
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>> I know ‹u› looks different from the ‹î› you might be familiar with, but the rules for pronunciation are designed to help in any case. 
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>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/ 
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