[Spellyans] [Agantavas] "Winni-an-Pou"

Craig Weatherhill craig at agantavas.org
Tue Aug 4 18:13:47 IST 2015


I'm still trying - and failing - to figure out what the Holyer an Gof  
judges were thinking about when they awarded the 2015 trophy to a book  
that classifies early CORNISH sculpture as "Anglo-Saxon"!  Words fail  
me....

Craig



On 4 Est 2015, at 17:02, Nicholas Williams wrote:

>
> On 4 Aug 2015, at 16:57, Clive Baker <clive.baker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> two excellent points Nicholas... the second has crossed my mind on  
>> numerous occasions... so how do we solve it?
>> perhaps Winni a'n Pou?... or just Winni, an Pou?
>> it reminds me of a feeble joke I once encountered... that Winnie  
>> the Poo and Attilla the Hun must have been related, because they  
>> both had the same middle name!
>> on that point I will return to sleep!
>> Clive
>
> The joke was in Intolerable Cruelty (George Clooney and Catherine  
> Zeta-Jones): Attila the Hun, Henry the Eighth and Ivan the Terrible.  
> Same middle name.
> For Winnie the Pooh I would say Wyny Pou or Wyny Pû.
>
> It my experience that the title is usually the hardest thing to  
> translate.
>
> Nicholas
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Nicholas Williams <njawilliams at gmail.com 
>> > wrote:
>> Congratulations to John Parker for having translated A.A.Milne's  
>> classic into Cornish.
>>
>> I have two questions about the title.
>> 1 How do we know that the -nn- in Winni-an-Pou is not pre-occluded?  
>> Why is it not to be pronounced Widni an Pou?
>> 2 Kesva an Taves Kernewek doesn't mean "Committee, the Cornish  
>> Language" but "the Committee of the Cornish Language," similarly  
>> Cussel an Tavas Kernuak doesn't mean "Council, the Cornish  
>> Language" but "the Council of the Cornish Language" and Holyer an  
>> Gof doesn't mean "Holyer, the Smith" but "the Follower of the  
>> Smith". How then is Winni-an-Pou the Cornish for Winnie-the-Pooh?  
>> Doesn't it more naturally mean "The Winnie of the Pooh?"
>>
>>
>> Nicholas
>>
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