[Spellyans] SWF Review

Nicholas Williams njawilliams at gmail.com
Mon Feb 22 21:49:31 GMT 2016


> On 22 Feb 2016, at 21:24, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org> wrote:
> 
> war'n occurs consistently in the place-name Tywarnhayle.
> 
> Ti Waernel, Tiwaernhel 960
> Tywarnail 1221, Tywarneil 1231
> Tywarnail, Trewernayl 1296
> Tywarnheil 1303
> Tywarnail 1310
> Trewerneil 1346
> Tuernayl 1391
> Tywarnayle 1461
> Trewarnayle 1584
> Tywarnhaile 1613, 1673, 1680, 1699, c.1720
> Tiwarnail 1750
> 
> ty, "senior manor" + war'n (on the, upon the", + heyl, "estuary with tidal flats".
> 
> (Ty- seems to have been retained for manors perceived to be of high status and, in these names, did not alter to chy-.   Tybesta, Tywarnhayle, Tywardreath, Degembris and Tehidy are examples).
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> Craig
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> On 2016 Whe 22, at 21:08, Nicholas Williams wrote:
> 
>> Thank you, Linus, for the one example.
>> 
>> The counter-examples seem to me still to be overwhelming.
>> I have found the following: 
>> 
>> war an x 147
>> waran x 1
>> var an x 10
>> vor an x 3
>> wor an x 8
>> 
>> and Lhuyd writes uar an x 10.
>> 
>> The scribes of both Middle and Late Cornish seem to have believed the collocation
>> of war + an to contain two syllables.
>> I think I shall continue for the present to consider war’n less authentic than war an (wàr an in KS).
>> 
>> Nicholas
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Feb 2016, at 20:59, Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com <mailto:everson at evertype.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Elided for verse? "war ’n ambos” is not exactly the same thing as a regular contraction to “war’n". 
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