[Spellyans] BTW

Herbie Blackburn kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com
Mon Mar 6 21:07:30 GMT 2017



Yes Feats Day or Festival:-


Gol & Degol/Dugol(-yow), Kyfvewy(-ow), Golwyth -m, Con(-yow =Supper) -f; Degl (Lhuyd) -m





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From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Clive Baker
Sent: 06 March 2017 18:54
To: Standard Cornish discussion list <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] BTW


So my assumption that "Degol" means FEAST DAY is correct then despite the variety of forms?


On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:19 PM, Nicholas Williams <njawilliams at gmail.com <mailto:njawilliams at gmail.com> > wrote:

You may I have a point, though the apostrophe in Dy’goel was written to indicate an apparent loss of dh. 


I had always assumed that du/dew and de were variants, rather than one derived from the other.

Tregear writes war du fencost myttyn TH 44a. On the other hand in his manuscript glossary

Lhuyd writes


De Zîl

De Lîn

De merh

De Marhar

De Ieu

De Gwenar

De Zadarn.


John Boson writes De Zil and Dezil occurs in the Gwavas MSS.


This seems to imply that there were two separate forms: de and du/dew. Moreover two separate forms may be suggested by survivals in dialect. In his 1938 dictionary Nance cites duggle ‘holiday’  and diggle-dize for ‘harvest home’. 

If De in De Zîl and Degl do indeed contain a reduced form of Dew and if an apostrophe is thought

necessary, one should write De’Sul, De’Lun. 


My own view is that apostrophes are best avoided. KS writes yma, but ma without an apostrophe even though y has been

omitted. I write Degol and De Sul.







On 5 Mar 2017, at 19:40, Linus Band <linusband at gmail.com <mailto:linusband at gmail.com> > wrote:


But, judging from the spellings du and dew, hasn't the labial glide -w been omitted? 


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