[Spellyans] Vowel length in monosyllables before sk
daniel at ryan-prohaska.com
Tue Aug 14 14:36:21 BST 2018
Na ellam lawl dhewgh fatell ello whei letheredna vogalednow derag an bodny ‹sk› en Kernôwek Standard, bes my a ell lawl dhewgh dell veu ‹mysk› ~ ‹mesk› scrifys ‹mêsk› gen Lhuyd ha Pryce en Kernôwek Diwedhes. E veu va scrifys ‹meske› gen “magic-e” en CW, ha ma hedna o menya treweythyow vogalen hir et an text na.
My a venja assentya genowgh dr’ew an vogalen gòtt e’n geryow ‹desk› ha ‹dysk›.
Lhuyd a scrifas ‹pâsk› gen to bian, etho thera vy o crejy an vogalen dhe voas hir.
Gen oll an gwella,
> On 14.08.2018, at 12:40, iacobianus at googlemail.com wrote:
> Dear All,
> I wonder if anyone can help me with spelling several monosyllables ending sk in Kernowek Standard (KS).
> Desky Kernowek gives KS mesk (of the prepositional phrase in mesk) suggesting a long vowel. But Nance 1938 does not mark the vowel long. Unified Cornish permits spelling with either yor e. Kernewek Kemmyn (KK) accepts only y; and An Gerlyver Meur says it is long. If KS mesk does indeed indicate a long vowel, why is the spelling not with diaeresis: mësk in alternation with mÿsk? If on the other hand a short vowel is accepted, why is the spelling not with grave accent: mèsk? (There does not seem to be justification for a long vowel outside Cornish now the old idea of compensatory lengthening on simplification of proto-cluster *k-sk > sk has been generally abandoned.)
> Williams 2006 gives Unified Cornish Revised (UCR) desk ‘desk’ without a macron, suggesting a short vowel. The first two impressions of my Gerlyver Kescows give KS desk without a diacritical mark, but perhaps this should be corrected to dèsk (grave accent) in the third impression. As with mesk, I cannot see any justification for a long vowel unless it arises in Cornish itself. But Cornish lengthening of all vowels in monosyllables before sk would be far-reaching: UCR dysk ‘disc’ (Williams 2006) would then become KS disk, pronounced ‘deesk’, which seems too much like Mr McGregor to be plausible!
> Williams 2006 gives UCR Pask ‘Easter’ without a macron, suggesting a short vowel. Desky Kernowek gives KS Pask without a diacritical mark, suggesting a long vowel. An Gerlyver Meur says the vowel of KK Pask is long. Gerlyver Kescows also has KS Pask. I am not currently proposing to amend it.
> Best regards,
> Ian Jackson
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