[Spellyans] "Tribe"

[Clive Baker]

I think the English pronunciation of corps is from its original language
Ray...French
Clive

On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 8:42 AM Raymond Chubb <ray at spyrys.org> wrote:

> This is interesting Craig.
>
> Re *corlan*, Nance thought that this was a sheepfold and related to an
> older word for a sheep. I note that in the English - Cornish dictionary
> Nicholas has used it to mean an enclosure e.g. pen or pound.
>
> Why in English do we pronounce corps as cor? Any connection?
>
> On 12Hwe2020, at 20:40, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org> wrote:
>
> In ‘Desky Kernowek’, Nicholas cites two words to translate “tribe”:
> Nance’s <*lyth*> (< OC <*leid*>), and <*tryb*> (Tregear’s <*trib*>), but
> there is a third noun that we could readily use in revived Cornish.
>
> This word is <*cordh*> (commonly reducing to <*cor’*>), pl. <*corthow*>,
> gender unclear.
>
> It occurs in two Cornish place-names: Trigg (pagus Tricurius C7;
> Trigorscire c.881), the Hundred or Keverang of North Cornwall; and
> Langorthou 1310, the site of Fowey church.  It also occurs in Brittany as
> Trégor, evidently and like Kernev and Domnonèe,  a cross-channel
> transference.
>
> <*cordh, cor’*> also forms part of OC <*coscor*>, “family, retinue”
> (place-name: Bownds an Coscar, Towednack 1672); and MC <*corlan*>,
> “cemetery” (Welsh: <*corddlan*>).  Translating as “clan, tribe, family,
> army”, <*cordh*> has cognates in Welsh <*cordd*>, Old Breton <*cor*> and
> early Irish <*cuire*>, “host, troop”.
>
> In the name Trigg, this indicates a Hundred or Keverang that could muster
> three war-hosts and interestingly enough, this component of Cornwall’s
> original six Hundreds was later divided into three (Trigg, Lesnewth and
> Stratton).  Indeed <*keverang*> itself has cognates in Welsh (<*cyfrang*>,
> “meeting, encounter, battle”) and Middle Breton (<*cuuranc*> “military
> assembly”).  In Roman Gaul, we also find the Tricorii and the Petrucorii.
>
> It’s also interesting that in these names <*try, tri*> does not cause 3rd
> state mutation, but 2nd state.  Furthermore, where it occurs in the hill
> name Dry Carn (Tricarn 1300), “three (Bronze Age) cairns”, it causes no
> mutation at all in 6 surviving attestations spanning as many centuries.
>
> I see no reason why <*cordh, cor’*>, pl. <*cordhow*> “tribe, clan,
> war-host” cannot be accepted into revived Cornish.
>
> Craig
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