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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, I think you have it about right in KS,
regarding <<STRONG>i</STRONG>> and <<STRONG>y</STRONG>>, though I'm
still not sure about <STRONG>bÿs</STRONG>/<STRONG>bës</STRONG>
words.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Why are <STRONG>despit</STRONG> and
<STRONG>constrin</STRONG> quoted as exceptions? Surely, these have stressed
<<STRONG>i</STRONG>> = [i:], and so are regular.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would also expect [I@] and [i:@] to be
<<STRONG>ia</STRONG>> (e.g. <STRONG>fia </STRONG>"to flee"), and [ja] to
be <<STRONG>ya</STRONG>>(e.g. <STRONG>redya </STRONG>"to read") and I
would expect final <-<STRONG>y</STRONG>>, e.g. <STRONG>tyby</STRONG> "to
suppose", <STRONG>chy</STRONG> "house".</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Initial <<STRONG>i</STRONG>> would
be OK but there are exceptions (e.g. <STRONG>yw</STRONG> "is",
<STRONG>y</STRONG> "his", <STRONG>yma</STRONG>/<STRONG>ymons</STRONG>,
<STRONG>ytho</STRONG>). These will need to be in a very short list else they
will need to be predictable -- "function" word is too vague a
term.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What happens when a word starts with
<<STRONG>gy</STRONG>-> or <<STRONG>gi</STRONG>-> under soft
mutation? Does it become <<STRONG>y</STRONG>-> or
<<STRONG>i</STRONG>-> respectively, or do they all become
<<STRONG>i</STRONG>->?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>How do we know whether <STRONG>yn gwir</STRONG> is
"truly" (with missing mutation) or <STRONG>in gwir</STRONG> "in truth", and
does "in truth" mean "truly" anyway?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I can live with it, if that is what you want to do,
but I think that I would prefer not to have this initial
<<STRONG>i</STRONG>> rule. It appears to be cosmetic only and without
function.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew J. Trim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 30, 2008 6:20 PM</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Spellyans] -ita</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>KS uses y for [I] everywhere except
<DIV>in derivatives of monosyllables in <i>, e.g. gwir, gwiryoneth; tir,
tiryow</DIV>
<DIV>and also where a final long i occurs in a stressed syllable despit,
constrin.</DIV>
<DIV>initially, e.g. istyna, inclynya, in, indella, etc.</DIV>
<DIV>yn adverbial is distinguished from in 'in': yn tâ but in gwir.</DIV>
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<DIV>Nicholas</DIV>
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<DIV>On 30 Jun 2008, at 18:16, Terry Corbett wrote:</DIV><BR
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Since we have a [I] pronunciation we should use a <
y >.<BR><BR>Terry<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, A. J. Trim <<A
href="mailto:ajtrim@msn.com">ajtrim@msn.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Either make the choice between <<B>i</B>>
and <<B>y</B>> simple and consistent or say that either may be used
optionally anywhere, or discard one and just use the other.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Please don't leave us with the current
unpredictable mishmash.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way, what is Cornish for "mishmash"? ...
<B>deray</B>, perhaps ... or <B>dere</B>, or <B>derai</B>?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew J. Trim</FONT></DIV>
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