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size=3><FONT face=Gentium>They could be
written:<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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face=Gentium><SPAN class=apple-style-span><B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><SPAN
style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">fruit</SPAN></B></SPAN><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"> [fru:t], <B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">lvk</B> “luck” and <B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Luik</B>
“Luke”.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pc 0pc 10pt"><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT
size=3><FONT face=Gentium>No diacritics; no
problem.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0pc 0pc 10pt"><SPAN
class=apple-style-span><SPAN style="mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt"><FONT
size=3><FONT face=Gentium>That’s <<B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">ui</B>> for <<B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">û</B>> and <<B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">v</B>> for <<B
style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">ù</B>>.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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size=3><FONT face=Gentium>Regards,<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></P>
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face=Gentium size=3>Andrew J. Trim</FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
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href="mailto:njawilliams@gmail.com">nicholas williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2008 8:31 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Spellyans] SWF vowel inconsistencies</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">These are unacceptable to begin
with. Frut is so spelt in the SWF, but</SPAN></FONT>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">according to the rules it should
be pronounced fryt or frit. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Similarly they recommend
<ou> for [u] but if one were to write, say, louk for 'luck' it
would</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">be pronounced lu:k, e.g. like
Louk 'Luke'.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">These problems arise because the
SWF does not allow diacritics. KS writes frût [fru:t], lùk 'luck' and Lûk
'Luke'.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">No problem.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Nicholas</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">-----------</SPAN></FONT><BR>
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<DIV>On 1 Jul 2008, at 19:23, Terry Corbett wrote:</DIV><BR
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vowels of the SWF and their sound are listed on p. 4 as:</BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">eu</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[9(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)] [e</SPAN>: E<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">i</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">(~<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">-ei</SPAN>><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">) [i(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)] [i(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>I<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">] ~ [-</SPAN>@I<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">] § 3.4</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">y</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[</SPAN>I<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)] [i</SPAN>: I<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">e</SPAN>: E<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">o</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[</SPAN>O<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN></SPAN>7<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">] [o</SPAN>: O 7<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">oo</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[o</SPAN>:<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">u</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">] [u</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">]<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">ou</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[u(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)] [u</SPAN>: U<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">]</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">u</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">[y(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">)] [i(</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">) I] §<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Cardo"><<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">oa</SPAN>><SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'"><SPAN> </SPAN>[a</SPAN>:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">] [</SPAN>Q:<SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Book Antiqua'">](RLC only)</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"></SPAN></DIV> <SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR>Maybe it would be good to look at
each of these especially as to how well each spelling measures up to the
principles 1-4 of the SWF. ( allowing for Michaels suggested reading of number
3). I have change the IPA to xsampa. The first entry between [] is identified
as RMC pronunciation and the second as RLC and "Tudor Cornish"
pronunciations<BR><BR>Terry.<SPAN
class=Apple-converted-space> </SPAN><BR></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Spellyans
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