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<DIV>Sin agad e , Eadaidh !</DIV>
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<DIV>(Prof) Ken MacKinnon,<BR>Ivy Cottage, Ferintosh,<BR>The Black Isle, by
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<A title=eddie_climo@yahoo.co.uk href="mailto:eddie_climo@yahoo.co.uk">Eddie
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 12, 2008 2:10
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Spellyans]
Diacritics?</DIV>
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<DIV>I suspect we might be straying a little off topic again, but it's a slow
Saturday afternoon, so what the heck!</DIV>
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<DIV>I note that Nance in his <I>Guide to Cornish Place-Names</I> gives
the following:</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><B>bos (bod, bo)</B> pl. <B>bossow</B>.
dwelling</BLOCKQUOTE>
<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><B>bos</B>, pl. <B> bosow</B>. bush. <SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1"><B>bojek</B>.
bush-grown place</SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>. . . while in his 1938 <I>Gerlyver Noweth</I>, he adds:</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><B>bos</B>, pl. <B>-ssow</B>. dwelling-place : used
in place-names, often keeps its old form <I>bod</I> : may be
<I>boj</I> before vowels, and because of its final <I>s,</I> may
be <I>bos4, bo4</I> before mutable consonants.</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<DIV>There's no suggestion in either of these books that this element
generally takes the 2nd <I>bos</I>=bush meaning in Cornish, such as you
describe in Breton.</DIV>
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<DIV>Moreover, I'd have thought that a name meaning 'a group of elder trees'
would be more suitable for . . . well, a group of elder trees, rather than for
a dwelling situated in their midst (much as in English, where one might find a
house named 'Elder Cottage'). 'The Elder Grove' sounds more like a pub name
(or an Irish jig!) if anything.</DIV>
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<DIV>Eddie Foirbeis Climo</DIV>
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<DIV>Dres ethom akennow byner re bons lyeshes</DIV>
<DIV><I>Accenti non multiplicanda praeter necessitatem</I></DIV>
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<DIV>On 12 Jul 2008, at 13:02, Hewitt, Stephen wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Really? In Breton,
<EM>bod</EM> (= Cornish <EM>bos</EM>) has two quite distinct meanings, one
"lodging", and the other "bunch, group", "bush", <EM>Bod</EM> in placenames,
cf. <EM>Botallec</EM> = <EM>Bod Haleg</EM>, is generally taken to have the
second sense, in other words "a bunch, group of willow trees". I always
thought <EM>Boscawen</EM> (which no doubt exists in Breton placenames as
<EM>Bodscao, Bodscaven</EM>) was "a bunch, group of elder
trees".</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A
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on behalf of Craig Weatherhill<BR><B>Sent:</B> Fri 11/07/2008
22:57<BR><B>To:</B> Standard Cornish discussion list<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Spellyans] Diacritics?</FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>"the downs of Boscawen" as opposed to Boscawen-ros
("roughland of<BR>Boscawen") in the same parish of St Buryan. Boscawen
is "dwelling (at<BR>an) elder tree".<SPAN class=Apple-style-span
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