<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">Craig, Jangye-ryn cannot be 'ice-house'!<br><br>What would an ice-house be doing near Winnianton, a modest farm on the cliffs north of Mullion? As far as I know, only manor houses and such could afford to have ice-houses built, plus all the time, trouble and expense of hauling ice in winter, mixing with salt, etc. Pencarrow had one, built in the early 1800s, I don't know of any other in Cornwall, but there may have been some. I doubt if ice houses were known in Cornwall much before then, and this place name is surely
older.<br><br>Jangye-ryn almost certainly is jynnji-rynn or jynnji-run (engine house [on a]
promontory, or engine house [on a] slope) - with both the 'j' and the 'g' of 'jangye' pronounced as in 'jail'. It has an 'a' where one would expect a 'y' or an 'i' admittedly, but that's Cornish place names for you!<br><br>And, of course, the word order is Cornish.<br><br>I do hope that this example of historical sloppy spelling by some unknown scribe does not encourage any more theories about vocalic alternation or dialects.<br><br>Penny<br><br><br><br><br><div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;">----- Original Message ----<br>From: Craig Weatherhill <weatherhill@freenet.co.uk><br>To: Standard Cornish discussion list <spellyans@kernowek.net><br>Sent: Thursday, 10 July, 2008 11:40:51 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Spellyans] More on bys/bes words and diacritical marks<br><br>No, yeth should not be pronounced that way (and the only attested form <br>of that word is, in fact <eyth> in Tregear). The soft
j or zh sound for
<br>initial Y is confined to very few words, of which yeyn and yet are the <br>most commonly found.. I think this also turns up in the coastal name <br>Jangye-ryn (Gunwalloe) which (apart from having suffered reversal to an <br>English word order) appears to contain the compound yeyn-jy (ice-house, <br>cold store).<br><br>Craig<br><br></div></div></div></div></div><br>
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