<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">But the Latin speakers of Gaul say Autriche, which was borrowed early from</span></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Frankish. The cluster str has been simplified to tr and the long i of the second</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">syllable has not been diphthongised. It has <au>.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">Nicholas</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;">-----------</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Baskerville" size="5"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 18px;"><br></span></font><div><div>On 24 Jul 2008, at 07:45, Ken MacKinnon wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 22px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div id="MailContainerBody" bgcolor="#ffffff" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" name="Compose message area" canvastabstop="true" style="padding-right: 10px; padding-left: 10px; padding-top: 15px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Maybe because Austria is an anglicisation of Oesterreich from Germnan Ost, ostern. = east</div><div> </div><div>And Australia derives from Latin australis = south.</div><div> </div><div>Just a thought - an Ken ken</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>(Prof) Ken MacKinnon,<br>Ivy Cottage, Ferintosh,<br>The Black Isle, by Dingwall,<br>Ross-shire IV7 8HX<br>Tel: 01349 - 863460<br>E-mail:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:kenmackinnon@enterprise.net">kenmackinnon@enterprise.net</a></div><div> </div><div> </div><blockquote style="padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; margin-right: 0px; "><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; ">----- Original Message -----</div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; background-position: initial initial; "><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="ajtrim@msn.com" href="mailto:ajtrim@msn.com">A. J. Trim</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="spellyans@kernowek.net" href="mailto:spellyans@kernowek.net">Standard Cornish discussion list</a></div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 24, 2008 1:58 AM</div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal arial; "><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Spellyans] au</div><div><br></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, I have no problem with these <<strong>au</strong>>. However, we might still be discussing the <<strong>i</strong>> and <<strong>y</strong>>.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">I prefer Austria to Awstria, and Australia to Awstralia.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Ostria is OK too but not Ostralia. Not sure why though.</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Regards,</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2">Andrew J. Trim</font></div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div><div style="font: normal normal normal 10pt/normal Tahoma; "><div><font face="Arial"></font><br></div><div style="background-image: initial; background-repeat: initial; background-attachment: initial; -webkit-background-clip: initial; -webkit-background-origin: initial; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 245); background-position: initial initial; "><div><b>From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="eddie_climo@yahoo.co.uk" href="mailto:eddie_climo@yahoo.co.uk">Eddie Climo</a></div><div><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:57 PM</div><div><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="spellyans@kernowek.net" href="mailto:spellyans@kernowek.net">Standard Cornish discussion list</a></div><div><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Spellyans] au</div></div></div><div><br></div><div>Looking at Nicholas's UCR Dictionary, we've got a few native Cornish words:</div><div>caugh, caughla, caughwas, faunsya, gaul, gaulak</div><div><br></div><div>and numerous loans such as:</div><div>auctour, auctoryta, an Bys Auncyent, traumatek, raunson, audio, audyt, autystek, hydraulek</div><div><br></div><div>and some foreign toponyms such as:</div><div>Austria, Australia, Enesow Fauklond, Mauritania, Mauricius</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote></div>I see no need to change the spelling of any of these; they're fine just as they are.<br><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal SlimbachITC; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal SlimbachITC; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal SlimbachITC; 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