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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'>Nicholas a
scrifas:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'></span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>Dan's dictionary has</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>kusul/cusul and
kusulya/cusulya for the SWF and in both cases he suggests that the medial</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><s> is to be pronounced
[z]. This pronunciation is presumably inherited from KK (and UC) and is
probably not</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>to be recommended.</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'>I should have
realised this, especially since I know Revived Late Cornish always had <cussel>.
I will correct this error immediately in the dictionary. I wonder, if the stressed
vowel isnt /y/, but /U/, how to spell this in the SWF. The only graph Id
be allowed to use would be <o>, thus <kossel>~<cossel>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'>Dan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'> nicholas williams<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, February 02, 2009
9:18 AM</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'></span></font></span><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'>Michael very kindly bought me a copy of George's Gerlyvrik in
Lostwithiel</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>and I have been examining it
with some interest.</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>My attention was
drawn to the two entries</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'> </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>kusul
'advice' and kusulya 'advise'.</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'> </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>In
these two etyma, apparently, the first <u> is to be pronounced [u] and
the second</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>is [y]. There is no way of
telling that the identical graph</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'> </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>bears
two differing values in both these words.</span></font></span><font size=2
color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>It would seem that these two
items are further examples in KK of a failure to</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>achieve the "phonemic
perfection" claimed for the orthography.</span></font></span><font size=2
color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>That, however, is a detail.</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>More importantly,
I notice that the pronunciation given for kusul and kusulya</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><font size=2
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>has
a voiced sibilant [z] for the <s> in both kusul and kusulya. <span
class=apple-style-span>I wonder whether this can really be justified.</span><font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>The word is
derives from Latin consilium and one would</span></font></span><font size=2
color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>expect the reflex of Latin
-ns- in Cornish to be [s] rather than [z].</span></font></span><font size=2
color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>The scribes of traditional
Cornish seemed to believe that</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";
color:navy'> </span></font><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2
face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>the
segment was voiceless. Look at the following examples:<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></span></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>ADVICE</span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>Cucell a Nice 'the
Council of Nicea' SA 65a</span></font></span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>cussyllyow
(plural) CW 627</span></font></span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>ADVISE</span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>cussyllyough PC
1807</span></font></span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>y cussylyaf RD 569</span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>cossyllya CW 670</span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>cossyllyas CW 771.</span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>These spellings
seem to suggest that the sound was [s] rather than [z].</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Palatino Linotype";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>Neil's orthography
writes <cussel>, cf. Cussel an Tavaz. Which closer to the
pronunciation than KK <kusul>. Dan's dictionary has</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>kusul/cusul and
kusulya/cusulya for the SWF and in both cases he suggests that the medial</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><s> is to be pronounced
[z]. This pronunciation is presumably inherited from KK (and UC) and is
probably not</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>to be recommended. KS writes
<cssul> and <csulya> and pronounces both</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>as they are spelt, i.e. with
a voiceless [s].</span></font></span><font size=2 color=navy face="Doulos SIL"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL";color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'>Nicholas<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'></span></font></span></font></span><font
size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Doulos SIL"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face="Doulos SIL"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Doulos SIL"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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