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<DIV>A gowetha wheg -oll,</DIV>
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<DIV>Spellyans / Kernowak communications have resumed today after some weeks'
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<DIV>I am very grateful for this.</DIV>
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<DIV>Meur ras dheugh-why-oll - an Ken ken</DIV>
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<DIV>Ken MacKinnon is now on Broadband with new e-mail addresses:-</DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=j.mills@email.com href="mailto:j.mills@email.com">Jon Mills</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=spellyans@kernowek.net
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 15, 2009 9:48
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Spellyans] Lhuyd's
Cornish</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Lhuyd's "<SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Mi a uon "
follows Origo Mundi (595-6) "my ny won leuerel prak | gans pup na vethaf
lethys".</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Ol an
gwella</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Jon</SPAN></DIV>
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Original Message -----<BR>From: "nicholas williams"
<NJAWILLIAMS@GMAIL.COM><BR>To: "Standard Cornish discussion list"
<SPELLYANS@KERNOWEK.NET><BR>Subject: [Spellyans] Lhuyd's Cornish<BR>Date:
Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:00:30 +0100<BR><BR><FONT class=Apple-style-span
face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Although Edward Lhuyd's description of Cornish is of
the greatest value,</SPAN></FONT>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">one should always be wary of
accepting his own written Cornish as authoritative in any
sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">He was not a native speaker,
he spent only a short time in Cornwall and was prone to
let</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">his Welsh lead him
astray.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Lhuyd begins the last
paragraph of the preface to his Cornish grammar in AB as
follows:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Mi a uon en ta boz lîaz tîz
(pôrletrys ha pôrskientek en traou erel) a akiuzya ha damnya peb prediryanz
adro kuitha am'àn an koth Davazo-ma.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">In KS we could write
this: </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">My a *wòn yn tâ bos lies *tus
(pòr letrys ha pòr *skientek in *traow erel) ow acûsya ha dampnya pùb
prederyans *adro qwitha in màn an *coth davasow-ma</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">'I know well that there many
people, very learned and wise in other things, are condemning and damning
every thought of preserving these old languages.'</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Note the following errors in
Lhuyd's Cornish</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Mi a uon for Mi a uor [Lhuyd
frequently makes the mistaking of inflecting the monoform, because the
Cornish/Breton syntax was absent from Welsh]</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">lies tus for lies huny/den.
Lies is always followed by the singular.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">skientek is unknown. The word
in the texts is skentyl, skyntyl, though the word is in PA only. Otherwise
the word fur could have been used..</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Traow for taclow. Lhuyd has
invented this plural, probably on the basis of Breton traou. It is unknown
in Cornish, being replaced by taclow, tacklow. It does not belong in the
revived language.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">adro kuitha for adro dho
kuitha</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">an coth davasow. Because
Welsh hen 'old' precedes its noun and is followed by lenition, Lhuyd writes
the incorrect coth davazo for tavasow coth.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Notice also that prediryanz
is Lhuyd's own coinage. The word for 'thought' in Cornish is preder,
prederow; cf. oll an prederow preveth a vab den 'all mankind's secret
thoughts' TH28.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Lhuyd could perhaps have
written:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Mi a uor en ta bos lîaz den
(pôrletrys ha pôrskentil en taklou erel) a akiuzya ha damnya peb preder adro
dho kuitha am'àn an tavazo koth-ma.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Lhuyd may be useful for
phonetic information about Cornish, but his Cornish morphology and syntax
are not reliable.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span style="FONT-SIZE: 18px"><BR></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT class=Apple-style-span face=Baskerville size=5><SPAN
class=Apple-style-span
style="FONT-SIZE: 18px">Nicholas</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Spellyans
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University of Kent
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