<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On 19 Gor 2009, at 10:01, Michael Everson wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Your logic is assailable, Eddie.<br>Are you saying that the word which Cornish speakers commonly and usually used for chair (namely, "chair") has no place in Revived Cornish?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Your own logic is threadbare here, Michael, or at least your powers of observation. Manifestly I did not say that, otherwise you would not have to ask, would you? To clarify, I have no objection to people using <i>chayr</i> if they choose to; I merely assert the reasons why <i>cadar</i> whould not be rejected.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Since it is by far the most common word for the object in the texts, why not use it as the most common word in the revival?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Because <i>cadar</i> is more commonly used nowadays, and has been over 4 generations of the Revival.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>If Gendall restricts the use of "cadar" to a position and the person who holds it, he does so because he recognizes that the usual word for chair is "chair". </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Perhaps he does, but many Revivalists don't agree with his restriction.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Seems to me that this is an excellent "usage register" for "cadar".</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Of course it is. However, as 4 generations of Revivalists have shown, it is commonly used to mean the item of furniture as well.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>I think your suggestion that "chair" is frequently attested because the corpus is slanted towards medieval religious plays to be very strange indeed.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I find your suggestion that 4 generations of RC usage should be overturned to be very strange indeed. Languages evolve, even ones in the situation of RC, and this is just another example of such evolution.</div><div><br></div><div>Or are we to leave the development of our language solely in the hands of academics and bureaucrats?</div><div><br></div><div>Now, that would be surpassingly strange indeed!</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>... And it begs the question as to why one would need to adopt "cadar" into general use, because to do so doesn't fill a gap. The anti-English fetishism of some Revivalists eschews "chair" on principle. Should we do likewise?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You're indulging in hyperbole there, Michael; the word 'fetishism' smacks of primitive religions and sexual perversion. Anyway, I don't suggest 'adopting' anthing, since <i>cadar</i> has been part of RC for so long already. I merely recommend maintaining the status quo.</div></div><br><div> <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: SlimbachITC; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">Eddie Foirbeis Climo</div><div>- -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- - -- -</div><div>Dres ethom akennow byner re bons lyeshes</div><div><i>Accenti non multiplicandi praeter necessitatem</i></div></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div></span> </div><br></body></html>