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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Really unnecessary to
install special fonts.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Just about all fonts
now have (this taken from ordinary Times New Roman:)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>á é í ó ú <span lang=AR-SA dir=RTL>ẃ</span><span dir=LTR></span><span
lang=AR-SA><span dir=LTR></span> <span dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL><span
dir=RTL></span>‎‎ý</span><span dir=LTR></span><span dir=LTR></span> <span
dir=RTL></span><span dir=RTL><span dir=RTL></span>‎</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>à è ì ò ù ẁ ỳ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>â ê î ô û ŵ ŷ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>ä ë ï ö ü ẅ ÿ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>The diacritics on a e i
o u can be had by using the Spanish keyboard input, as described earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>For the diacritics on w
and y, you can program them in Word as Autotext:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Insert / Symbol /
select ŷ / Insert. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Select ŷ in your text /
Insert / Autotext / New / Please name your autotext: choose something beginning
with a punctuation mark, like ,y / Enter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Then to get ŷ, type ,y
and hit F3.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Cambria><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Cambria;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Christian Semmens<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, January 31, 2011
11:15 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Standard
 Cornish discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Spellyans]
dictionnaire de l'Academie francaise</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2011/1/30 Michael Everson <<a href="mailto:everson@evertype.com">everson@evertype.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>> At this point my
relative inexperience may be starting to show, but would it not be possible to
remove the diaresis and replace it with a circumflex? The length of the vowel
being identified correctly and the function of the diacritic maintained?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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12.0pt'><br>
The bÿs/bës distinction could be made by writing bŷs/bês. It would not affect
the system structurally. However, since ŷ is not in the Latin-1 or the Mac
Roman legacy character sets, both PC and Mac users would find many if not most
fonts not supporting the character. ÿ on the other hand does not offer this
disadvantage. I consider the disadvantage to be very serious indeed. It's one
thing to recommend diacritics; it's another to recommend diacritics that aren't
supported by people's fonts.<br>
<br>
Are you willing to live with that? Options are (1) Mandate ŷ/ê but permit ÿ/ë
in fallback and (2) Use ÿ/ë but permit ŷ/ê and (3) Use ÿ/ë as at present.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Option 1 would suit me fine. That way the technical deficiencies of some fonts
would not drive orthographic design. Surely the Welsh assembly can be tapped
for help to make fonts suitable for their own use, which would also be suitable
for our own purposes? It might even be possible to lobby the font makers
themselves to include the extra character. On Linux, even my terminal font
allows the use of ŷ.<br>
<br>
I have just trawled through the fonts on Libre Office (Open Office fork) on
Ubuntu and attach the file I created that shows that ŷ is well served for fonts
under the free office packages. I have attached it below - apologies for those
that can only see Microsoft files, a splendid alternative office package with
far better file import filters is available for free on all major platforms
(Widows, Linux and Mac) at <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.libreoffice.org/download/">http://www.libreoffice.org/download/</a><br>
<br>
Although I am sure that publishers will experience sometimes acute problems
with font selection, most casual users will have no problem selecting a
suitable font for most communications. I haven't tried a Mac yet. <br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Chris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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