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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Thank you very much
for this Craig!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
DE'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net] On
Behalf <span class=GramE>Of</span> Craig Weatherhill<br>
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2011 5:35 PM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Standard Cornish discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [<span class=SpellE>Spellyans</span>] <span class=SpellE>tavas</span>
in early Middle Cornish</span></font><font color=navy><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>If it helps, the word turns up
in two place-names:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=SpellE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Tavis</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <span class=SpellE>Vor</span>, <span
class=SpellE>Mousehole</span> (coastal feature - no other available spellings);<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=SpellE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hantertavis</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> (rock formation > settlement, <span
class=SpellE>Mabe</span>):<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><span
class=SpellE>Hantertavas</span> 1522;<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=SpellE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Hanterdeves</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>, <span class=SpellE>Henterdeves</span>
c.1580<span class=GramE>;<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><span
class=SpellE>Hanter</span></span> <span class=SpellE>Davys</span> 1585<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Later spellings written by
external sources, suggest <span class=SpellE>deves</span>, 'sheep<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>(<span class=GramE>pl</span>'),
but <span class=SpellE>tavas</span> is the true word; "half-tongue",
from the shape of<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>the</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> rock.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Craig<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>On 13 <span class=SpellE>Gor</span>
2011, at 16:01, Daniel Prohaska wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Nicholas,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> You wrote: “I am assuming
nothing. I am merely pointing out that<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>the</span>
earliest recorded Middle Cornish form of 'tongue' is <span class=SpellE>tavas</span>.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Tavas, <span
class=SpellE>tavaz</span> is the usual form in Middle and Late Cornish.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> The first instance of
<<span class=SpellE>tavas</span>> I find is in BK.261, but OM.767
has<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <<span class=SpellE>taves</span>>,
and <st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place> is both earlier in composition as well
as in<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>manuscript</span>
(AFAIK).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> The development of /<span
class=SpellE>ɔd</span>/ in OC <<span class=SpellE>tauot</span>> would
then be analogous to the<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>one</span>
in OC /<span class=SpellE>ɔk</span>/, e.g. <<span class=SpellE>chelioc</span>>
‘cock’ and <<span class=SpellE>dioc</span>> ‘lazy’,<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>which</span>
rounded to */œ/ > unrounded to /ɛ/ in MC <<span class=SpellE>taves</span>>
and as well<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>in</span>
<<span class=SpellE>colyek</span>, *<span class=SpellE>dyek</span>> (cf.
BM.3360 <<span class=SpellE>thyek</span>>) and -as, -<span class=SpellE>ak</span>
in LC <<span class=SpellE>tavaz</span>><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>and</span>
<<span class=SpellE>kulliag</span>, <span class=SpellE>dyack</span>>. So,
what I was asking was merely whether you<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> believe a development
such as /ɔ/ > /œ/ > /ɛ/ > /ə/ is unlikely<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>for</span>
<<span class=SpellE>tauod</span>, <span class=SpellE>taves</span>, <span
class=SpellE>tavas</span>>, or whether you believe it went through /a/:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Either: /ɔ/ > /a/ >
/ə/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Or:<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>       </span>/ɔ/ > /œ/ > /ɛ/ > /a/ > /ə/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Yes, the spellings <<span
class=SpellE>tavas</span>, <span class=SpellE>tavaz</span>> with <a>
are more frequent, but<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>are</span>
from texts that you assume were composed and written down after<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>the</span>
Prosodic Shift where both old unstressed /ɛ/ and /a/ fell in<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>with</span>
each other as /ə/.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> So, let me rephrase, are
you saying that a proposed */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavɛz</span>/ (cf.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place>
<<span class=SpellE>taves</span>>) did not (is unlikely to have) exist(<span
class=GramE>ed</span>)?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> From:
spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> ]<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> On Behalf Of <span
class=GramE>nicholas</span> williams<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Sent: Wednesday, July 13,
2011 3:55 PM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> To: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">Standard Cornish discussion list</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Subject: Re: [<span
class=SpellE>Spellyans</span>] <span class=SpellE>tavas</span> in early Middle
Cornish<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> “I am assuming nothing. I
am merely pointing out that the earliest<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> recorded Middle Cornish
form of 'tongue' is <span class=SpellE>tavas</span>. Tavas, <span class=SpellE>tavaz</span>
is<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> the usual form
in Middle and Late Cornish.”</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> The three examples of the
<span class=SpellE>englyn</span> all come from <span class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span>
but are<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>nonetheless</span>
slightly different.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> They are as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> An</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span> <span
class=SpellE>kôth</span> <span class=SpellE>yu</span> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span>
<span class=SpellE>guîr</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Bedh</span>
<span class=SpellE>dorn</span> <span class=SpellE>rê</span> <span class=SpellE>ver</span>,
<span class=SpellE>dhon</span> <span class=SpellE>tavaz</span> <span
class=SpellE>rê</span> <span class=SpellE>hîr</span>;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Mez</span>
<span class=SpellE>dên</span> <span class=SpellE>heb</span> <span class=SpellE>davaz</span>
a <span class=SpellE>gollaz</span> <span class=SpellE>i</span> <span
class=SpellE>dîr</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> AB: 251c.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> An</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span> <span
class=SpellE>kôth</span> <span class=SpellE>yu</span> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span>
<span class=SpellE>guir</span>,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Bedh</span>
<span class=SpellE>dorn</span> <span class=SpellE><span class=GramE>rêver</span></span><span
class=GramE> ,</span> <span class=SpellE>dhon</span> <span class=SpellE>tavaz</span>
<span class=SpellE>rê</span> <span class=SpellE>hîr</span>;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Mez</span>
<span class=SpellE>dên</span> <span class=SpellE>heb</span> <span class=SpellE>davaz</span>
a <span class=SpellE>gollaz</span> <span class=SpellE>i</span> <span
class=SpellE>dîr</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Pryce H 3v<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> An</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span> <span
class=SpellE>koth</span> <span class=SpellE>yw</span> <span class=SpellE>lavar</span>
<span class=SpellE>gwîr</span>,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Na <span class=SpellE>boz</span>
<span class=SpellE>nevra</span> <span class=SpellE>dôz</span> <span
class=SpellE>vâz</span> an <span class=SpellE>tavaz</span> re <span
class=SpellE>hîr</span>;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Bez</span>
<span class=SpellE>dên</span> <span class=SpellE>heb</span> <span class=SpellE>davaz</span>
a <span class=SpellE>gollaz</span> <span class=SpellE>i</span> <span
class=SpellE>dîr</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Pryce G <span
class=SpellE>g</span> 2.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> The last version of the <span
class=SpellE>englyn</span> is recorded by <span class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span> in a
letter<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> published by Pryce in
ACB.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span>
says in the letter that he heard the <span class=SpellE>englyn</span> from the
Clerk of<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> St Just.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> It is therefore
undoubtedly genuine.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> I cannot see any <span
class=SpellE>Cymricism</span> in any of the versions.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Since we do not know how
the word for '<span class=SpellE>tonge</span>' developed from OC <span
class=SpellE>tauot</span>,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> I prefer to spell the
unstressed vowel as our sources do.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Nicholas<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> On 2011 <span
class=SpellE>Gor</span> 13, at 13:15, Daniel Prohaska wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> As for the unstressed
<a> in <<span class=SpellE>tavas</span>> (BK, SA, Hawke, <span
class=SpellE>N.Boson</span>,<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>J.Boson</span>,
Pryce), we have the OC form <<span class=SpellE>tauot</span>> (VC) which
I take to<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> mean */ˈ<span
class=SpellE>tavɔd</span>/ or */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavœd</span>/. The expected
development would be */ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavɛz</span>/
> */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavəz</span>/ > LC */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tævɐz</span>/.
Are you proposing <span class=GramE>that</span><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <<span class=SpellE>taves</span>>
(<st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place>) */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavɛz</span>/
passed through a development stage */ <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavaz</span>/
at the time of composition of the <span class=SpellE>englyn</span> before going
on to<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tavəz</span>/
and */ˈ<span class=SpellE>tævɐz</span>/ after the prosodic shift?”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Spellyans</span>
mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Spellyans@kernowek.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Craig Weatherhill<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=SpellE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Spellyans</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Spellyans@kernowek.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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