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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
DE'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net] <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-fareast-language:
DE'>On Behalf Of Craig Weatherhill<br>
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 12:18 AM<br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Standard Cornish discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
Subject: Re: [<span class=SpellE>Spellyans</span>] <span class=SpellE>tavas</span>
in early Middle Cornish</span></font><font color=navy><span lang=EN-GB
style='color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“SWF is certainly
inconsistent.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>The earlier distinction
between <span class=SpellE>melyn</span> 'mill' and <span class=SpellE>melen</span>,
'yellow' was clear, but that's gone under KK influence.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span>These are now '<span class=SpellE>melin</span>'
and '<span class=SpellE>melyn</span>' respectively.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I’m not s sure the
earlier, clear distinction between the two was justified. Going by the
attestations both words show great similarities in the spelling of the
unstressed vowel. I cannot determine with certainty that there was a contrast. UC
<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melyn</span></i></b></span>, SWF <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melin</span></i></b></span> ‘mill’ and UC <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melen</span></i></b></span>, SWF <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melyn</span></i></b></span> ‘yellow’ may
well have been homophonous.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>SWF <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melin</span></i></b></span> ‘mill’ (cf. <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melin</span></i></span> (VC), <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>velyn</span></i></span> (BK), <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>belin</span></i></span> (<span class=SpellE><span
class=GramE>Lh</span></span>), †<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>milin</span></i></span>
(<span class=SpellE>Lh</span>), †<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melin</span></i></span>
(<span class=SpellE>Lh</span>), <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>vellan</span></i></span>
(Pryce), <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>mellyn</span></i></span> (Pryce))<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>SWF<b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'> <span class=SpellE>melyn</span></span></b> ‘yellow’ (cf. <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>milin</span></i></span> (VC, Pryce), <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melyn</span></i></span> (<st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place>,
BM, <span class=SpellE><span class=GramE>Lh</span></span>, Pryce), <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>mellen</span></i></span> (<span
class=SpellE>Chirgwin</span>), <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>mellyn</span></i></span>
(<span class=SpellE>Lh</span>, Pryce), <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>melen</span></i></span>
(<span class=SpellE>Lh</span>), <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>velin</span></i></span>
(Hawke)); <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“After seeing <span
class=SpellE>melin</span>, <span class=SpellE>kegin</span>, etc.</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> I expected 'holly' to be <span
class=SpellE>kelin</span> in SWF. But it's not. It's <span class=SpellE>kelyn</span>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>It only serves to baffle.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Craig”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>With etymological
spellings it is impossible to predict whether the spelling has been fixed at
<y> or <<span class=SpellE>i</span>> by guessing from the sound
alone. SWF has <span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>kelyn</span></i></b></span>
‘holly’ (cf. <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>kelin</span></i></span> (VC))
because the */<span class=SpellE>i</span>/ in British *<span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>kol</span></i>-<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>ino</span></i></span>- was
short. This distinction is certainly not necessary in the revived language, in
that I agree with you, Nicholas and Michael. It is also not necessary to
distinguish the suffixes -<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;
mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>ys</span></i></b></span>
(verbal adjective) and -<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>is</span></i></b> (1<sup>st</sup>
& 3<sup>rd</sup> <span class=SpellE>pers.sg.preterite</span>).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>For 2013 I would
definitely like to see a redistribution of <<span class=SpellE><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>i</span></i></b></span><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;
mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'> y</span></i></b>>
in the SWF, but not the way KS has tackled the issue. Many words that show <<b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>e</span></i></b>> in LC have <<span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>i</span></i></b></span>> in KS now, such
as the preposition ‘in’, which is usually <<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;
mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>en</span></i></b>>
in LC and other examples. In my opinion, SWF should have <<span
class=SpellE>i</span>> where both RMC and RLC have <span class=GramE>an <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>i</span></i></b></span></span>-type vowel (/<span
class=SpellE>i</span>ː/ ~ /ɪ/) and <<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>y</span></i></b>> in
SWF/M (M for ‘Middle’ not ‘<st1:place w:st="on">Main</st1:place>’!!!) where RMC
has <span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>i</span></i></b></span>-type
vowel, but RLC has an <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>e</span></i></b>-type
vowel (/eː/ ~ /ɛ/), and <<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>e</span></i></b>> where
both RMC and RLC have an <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>e</span></i></b>-type
vowel. SWF/L could then regularly replace all instances of SWF/M <<b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>y</span></i></b>> with <<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;
mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>e</span></i></b>>
(or <<b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>ë</span></i></b>> if so desired).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“On 13 <span class=SpellE>Gor</span>
2011, at 22:42, Michael Everson wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> On 13 Jul 2011, at 21:42,
Jed Matthews wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>> That's very
interesting.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>> Is there a wider lack
of distinction between ɨ and ə across the<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>> <span class=GramE>texts</span>?
As an LC speaker one of my main concerns about KS is<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>>> <span class=GramE>unstressed</span>
y representing schwa where it possibly shouldn't.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> I think you've been sold
a pup. I think you've put a lot of store<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>into</span>
something that isn't significant in Cornish.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> By and large in
unstressed final closed syllables you get /ə/. Now<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>there</span>
seems to be evidence that there are three colours of this,<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>namely</span>
[</span></font><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-bidi-font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>ᵻ] and [ə] (perhaps [</span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>ɐ]) and [</span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-bidi-font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>ᵿ]. Dick</span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'> <span class=SpellE>Gendall's</span><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>orthography</span>
masks the colouring distinction as much as anything<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>else</span>.
He writes (as I said previously) <<span class=SpellE>kegen</span>> with
<<span class=SpellE>ān</span>> right<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>alongside</span>
<<span class=SpellE>kettermen</span>> <<span class=SpellE>ẏn</span>>
and <span class=SpellE>termen</span> <en>. According to his own<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>key</span>
he intends these to correspond to [ɒ] and [ə] and [e]. I'm<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>afraid</span>
that here, at least, his recommendations are not coherent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Certainly his
recommendation that "<span class=SpellE>kegen</span>" has a low back
vowel<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> (effectively "<span
class=SpellE>kegon</span>") is at odds with your view that it should
have<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>a</span>
high front vowel.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> The reason <span
class=SpellE>kegin</span> has an <span class=SpellE>i</span> in the SWF is that
Ken George thought it<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> was better because in
British Latin it was <span class=SpellE>cocîna</span>. His recommended<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>pronunciation</span>
is [ˈ<span class=SpellE>kɛɡɪn</span>]. Ken George writes <<span
class=SpellE>melyn</span>> because<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> Welsh <span class=GramE>does</span>,
and he says the pronunciation is [ˈ<span class=SpellE>mɛlɪn</span>]. He
writes<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <<span class=SpellE>melin</span>>
because in Latin it was <span class=SpellE>molîna</span>, and he says the<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>pronunciation</span>
is [ˈ<span class=SpellE>mɛlɪn</span>]. No difference in pronunciation.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> In <span class=SpellE>Gendall's</span>
2007 dictionary he writes <<span class=SpellE>melin</span>> 'yellow' [ˈ<span
class=SpellE>melin</span>],<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <<span class=SpellE>belin</span>>
<span class=GramE>'mill' [ˈ<span class=SpellE>belin</span>],</span> and he
writes <<span class=SpellE>kegen</span>> 'kitchen' [ˈ<span class=SpellE>kegǝn</span>].<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> But in CW <<span
class=SpellE>gegen</span>> rhymes with <<span class=SpellE>onyn</span>>,
which is in SWF written <<span class=SpellE>onen</span>><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>and</span>
<<span class=SpellE>onan</span>>. If there were really such a distinction
even in RLC,<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=GramE>you'd</span>
want to write <<span class=SpellE>onin</span>>, wouldn't you?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>Kegyn/kegen/kegin</span>
are all pronounced as in "The frog he went a- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> <span class=SpellE>beggin</span>'."
Whether that's realized as [ˈ<span class=SpellE>bɛg<span style='mso-bidi-font-family:
Gentium'>ᵻn</span></span></span></font><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-bidi-font-family:
Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>] or [ˈ<span class=SpellE>b<span
style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>ɛgɪn</span></span></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>] or<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> 
</span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> [ˈ<span
class=SpellE>bɛgən</span>], all allophonic.</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> English "melon" is the
same. Makes no<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> difference whether it's
realized as [ˈ<span class=SpellE>mɛl<span style='mso-bidi-font-family:Gentium'>ᵿn</span></span></span></font><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-bidi-font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>] </span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>or [ˈ<span class=SpellE>mɛlən</span>]
or<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><span class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>> [ˈ<span
class=SpellE>mɛlən</span>].”</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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