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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Yes,
I, too, find reduction of the vowel (pre-tonic) in the first syllable of <<span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>diwettha</span></i></b></span>> [<span
class=SpellE>dəˈwɛθə</span>] likely when the stress
falls on the penultimate. The simplex <<span class=SpellE><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>diwedh</span></i></b></span>> contains /<span
class=SpellE>iw</span>/ rather than /<span class=SpellE>ɛw</span>/ as the
spelling <<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>deweth</span></i></span>>
would suggest. Since this holds true in LC, too, I would not write RMC <<span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>dÿweth</span></i></b></span>> and
RLC <<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>dëweth</span></i></b></span>>
but keep <<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>diwedh</span></i></b></span>>
and pronounce <<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>diwettha</span></i></b></span>>
[<span class=SpellE>dɪˈwɛθə</span>] or [<span
class=SpellE>dəˈwɛθə</span>]. More below… <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><font size=3
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;mso-bidi-font-family:Tahoma;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Gentium;mso-bidi-font-family:
Tahoma;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net
[mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><span class=GramE>nicholas</span> williams<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 14, 2011 9:26
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Standard
 Cornish discussion list</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [<span class=SpellE>Spellyans</span>]
latest, etc.</span></font><font color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>In KS we
write <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dyweth</span></i></span>
'end', but <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewetha</span></i></span>
'last', <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewedha</span></i></span>
'to end', <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewethfa</span></i></span>
'ending' and <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewedhes</span></i></span>
'recent, late'.</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The
SWF writes <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedh</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwettha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhva</span></i></span>
and <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhes</span></i></span>
for these.</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dan
has pointed out that <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diweth</span></i></span>
'end' occurs in the expression <i><span style='font-style:italic'>war <span
class=GramE>an</span> <span class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>diweth</span></b></span></span></i>
at TH 18a; <span class=SpellE>NBoson</span> writes <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>uor</span></i></span><i><span style='font-style:italic'>
an <span class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>diuath</span></b></span></span></i>
JCH 2; <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>heb</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'> <span class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>diuath</span></b></span></span></i>
'without end' is attested twice elsewhere in Late Cornish. And <span
class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span> has <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:
italic'>uar</span></i></span><i><span style='font-style:italic'> <span
class=GramE>an</span> <span class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>diuedh</span></b></span></span></i>
at JCH 29 and <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diuadh</span></i></span>
three times elsewhere in the tale. <span class=SpellE>Gwavas</span> writes <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>Bounaz</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'> <span class=SpellE>heb</span> <span class=SpellE><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>diuadh</span></b></span></span></i>. The diphthong of <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedh</span></i></span>
is therefore warranted by examples in traditional Cornish and by <span
class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span>.<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Thank you.</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:
Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The vowel
of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwettha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhva</span></i></span>
and <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhes</span></i></span>
is more problematic.</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>In
all these forms the sequence of vowel + <span class=SpellE>w</span> occurs
before the accent, the vowel is unstressed.</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>In
traditional Cornish it seems to have lowered from high front to mid high.<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>”</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'>Under loss of stress.</span></font></span><font color=navy face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Traditional
Cornish has 27 examples of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dyweth</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>,</span></i> 5 examples of <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>dywath</span></i></span>, one of <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>duwath</span></i></span> and one of <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diweth</span></i></span>. It
has 29 examples of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>deweth</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>, </span></i>10 of <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>dewath</span></i></span><i><span style='font-style:
italic'>, </span></i>two of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewathe</span></i></span>.<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=navy
face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=3 color=navy
face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><<span class=SpellE>Deweth</span>>
occurs as early as PA (cf. <<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>deweth</span></i></span>>)
and OM (<<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>deweyth</span></i></span>>),
but there is a definite tendency for the earlier texts (<st1:place w:st="on">OM</st1:place>,
PC, <span class=GramE>RD</span>, BM) to write <<span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>yw</span></i></span>> while the later texts (BK, TH, SA, CW) have
<<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>ew</span></i></span>>. Considering
the 15<sup>th</sup> century was the time when late Middle English /<span
class=SpellE>ɛʊ</span>/ and /<span class=SpellE>ɪʊ</span>/
were falling in with each other in /<span class=SpellE>ɪʊ</span>/ (dew-new
merger) it is hardly difficult to imagine that <<span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>ew</span></i></span>> and <<i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>u</span></i>> may have
been used to represent /<span class=SpellE>ɪw</span>/ in Cornish. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'></span></span></font></span><font color=navy
face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>There are
three examples of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dywethe</span></i></span>
'to end', two of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewethe</span></i></span>.</span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The
word for 'last' is <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewetha</span></i></span>
x 6, <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>thewetha</span></i></span>
x 2 and <span class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span> writes <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>deuetha</span></i></span>. There are no examples of *<span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dywetha</span></i></span>.<i><span
style='font-style:italic'> </span></i></span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=apple-style-span><i><font
size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:italic'>Dewethes</span></font></i></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> 'recent'
occurs once; <i><span style='font-style:italic'>a <span class=SpellE>thewethas</span></span></i>
'recently' occurs x 8. There is no example of *<span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>dywethes</span></i></span>. </span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=apple-style-span><i><font
size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:italic'>Dewethfa</span></font></i></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> occurs
twice, <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewathfa</span></i></span>
once. There are no instances of *<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:
italic'>dywethfa</span></i></span> or *<span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>dywethva</span></i></span></span></font></span><span
lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>In
traditional Cornish we also find:</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB
style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><span
class=apple-style-span><b><i><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-weight:
bold;font-style:italic'>dowethva</span></font></i></b></span></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> BK 294, <span
class=SpellE><b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>dowethva</span></i></b></span>
CW 2</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><span class=apple-style-span><i><font
size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:italic'>re</span></font></i></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><i><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:
italic'> <span class=SpellE>deball</span> <span class=SpellE><b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>dowethy</span></b></span></span></font></i></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> 'may you
end badly' CW 520</span></font></span><span lang=EN-GB style='mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><span
class=apple-style-span><i><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:
italic'>neffra</span></font></i></span></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><i><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:
italic'> <span class=SpellE>ny</span> <span class=SpellE>vithe</span> <span
class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>dowethis</span></b></span></span></font></i></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> 'never
will it be finished' CW 2407</span></font></span><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:
EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

</div>

<div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>d<i><span
style='font-style:italic'>re</span></i></span></font></span></span></span><span
class=apple-style-span><i><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:
italic'> <span class=SpellE>vedn</span> a <span class=SpellE>ua</span> <span
class=SpellE><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>dowethe</span></b></span> <span
class=SpellE>akar</span></span></font></i></span><span class=apple-style-span><font
size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> 'that it will die out' <span class=SpellE>NBoson</span>.</span></font></span><font
size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:
Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>In
order for -<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>ow</span></i></span>-
to have arisen in later Cornish in these words, the sequence must have been a
mid-front vowel followed by [<span class=SpellE>w</span>].</span></font></span><font
size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:
Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The
same rounding occurred in <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>bownans</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>bownas</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>bownanz</span></i></span>
< <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>bewnans</span></i></span>
and in <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>destrowy</span></i></span>
< <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>destrewy</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>. </span></i>Forms of this 'to destroy' with <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>ow</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'> </span></i>are attested 5 times (the first in
the Passion Poem).<font color=navy><span style='color:navy'>”</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I
disagree. These are separate developments. <span class=SpellE><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>Bewnans</span></i></b></span> developed into <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>bownans</span></i></b></span> (like <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>clewes</span></i></b></span> > <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>clowes</span></i></b></span>) under stress.
The reduction in <span class=SpellE>diwedhes</span> is not the same kind of environment,
namely lack of stress. What we see in the Cornish of all periods that /ɪ/
and /ɛ/ were often mixed up, in stressed as well as in unstressed
positions. An unstressed pre-tonic /ɪ/ in /<span class=SpellE>dɪˈwɛəz</span>/
may well have been pronounced [<span class=SpellE>dəˈwɛəz</span>]
and then under the influence of /<span class=SpellE>w</span>/, /ə/ may
have taken on a rounded quality, such as [<span class=SpellE>dɞˈwɛəz</span>].
It is OK to reflect this development in the orthography if one wants to, but I
don’t think it is the same changes as <span class=SpellE><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>bewnans</span></i></b></span> > <span
class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>bownans</span></i></b></span>. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'></span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>As has been
pointed out, <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>bewnans</span></i></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>,</span></i> the source of <span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>bownans</span></i></span><i><span style='font-style:
italic'>, </span></i>is attested. *<span class=SpellE><i><span
style='font-style:italic'>Bywnans</span></i></span> is not.<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Yes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The SWF by
writing <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwettha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedha</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhva</span></i></span>
and <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhes</span></i></span>
is suggesting that the diphthong is a high-front vowel followed</span></font></span><font
size=1 color=navy face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;
font-family:Baskerville;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>by <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>-<span class=SpellE>w</span></span></i>-, but the
forms <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dowethy</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dowethe</span></i></span>,
<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dowethva</span></i></span>
suggest that the vowel in the first syllable was mid-high.<font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'>”<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Yes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“</span></font></span><span
class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The three
instances of <span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dywethe</span></i></span>
'to end' have probably been influence by the simplex and thus <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedha</span></i></span> is
perhaps legitimate (<span class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>dewedha</span></i>/<i><span
style='font-style:italic'>dowedha</span></i></span> should also be allowed). <span
class=SpellE><span class=GramE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>Iw</span></i></span></span><i><span
style='font-style:italic'> </span></i>in the other etyma is less happy.</span></font></span><font
size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:
Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=1 face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>A
revision of the SWF should perhaps consider permitting the first vowel in <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwettha</span></i></span>, <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhes</span></i></span>, <span
class=SpellE><i><span style='font-style:italic'>diwedhva</span></i></span> to
be written as <e> rather than <<span class=SpellE>i</span>>.</span></font></span><font
size=1 color=navy face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;
font-family:Baskerville;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> </span></font><span
class=GramE><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>And
to allow spellings in <<span class=SpellE>ow</span>> for the Late Cornish
variant of the SWF.</span></font></span></span><font size=1 color=navy
face=Baskerville><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:6.0pt;font-family:Baskerville;
color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><font size=1 face=Georgia><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Georgia;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Nicholas<font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'>”</span></font><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Yes,
I can imagine that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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