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<div class=Section1><pre><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Nicholas a <span
class=SpellE>scrifas</span>:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=3
face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
class=GramE><font size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“The SWF for 'worthy' writes either <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiw</span></i></span> or RLC <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwew</span></i></span>.</span></font></span><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> In so doing it uses two spellings neither of which is attested, though <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guew</span></i></span> of BK is close to <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwew</span></i></span>.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>The assumption is that MC <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwyw</span></i></span>> stands for */<span
class=SpellE>gwiw</span>/ which would be spelt <<span class=SpellE><b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;
mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiw</span></i></b></span>> in the SWF/M (‘Middle’ not ‘<st1:place
w:st="on">Main</st1:place>’). SWF/L <<span class=SpellE><b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;
mso-bidi-font-weight:normal;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwew</span></i></b></span>> is unfortunate, as this should be <<span
class=SpellE>gwev</span>>, that is if the attestations you mention below are really examples of <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwyw</span></i></span> ‘worthy’ and not a contraction of <i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>go <span class=SpellE>ef</span> </span></i>‘woe to him’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“In the texts this word is spelt:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><font size=3 face=Gentium><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;
font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwyw</span></font></i></span><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> x 1; <span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guyu</span></i></span> x 1; <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gvyw</span></i></span> x 4; <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guyv</span></i></span> x 5; <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gyw</span></i></span> x 3;<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
class=SpellE><span class=GramE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guew</span></font></i></span></span><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> x 7 (all in BK); <span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>gweve</span></i></span> x 1;<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>  </span><span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gweff</span></i></span> x1; <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwef</span></i></span> x 1.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Yes.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“<span class=SpellE>Lhuyd</span> has no form *<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guiu</span></i></span> or *<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>guiw</span></i></span>.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><span
class=SpellE><font size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Lhuyd</span></font></span><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'> does not give this word at all, as far as I can make out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“I cannot see what reason there is for spelling this word with <<span
class=SpellE><span class=GramE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span
style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>iw</span></i></span></span>> in the SWF, apart from <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiw</span></i></span> in Common Cornish. This is based upon Welsh <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiw</span></i></span> and Breton <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiv</span></i></span>.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>While I believe you are right in saying the SWF spelling is based upon KK, it is the whole distribution of <<span
class=SpellE>i</span>> and <y> that was largely taken over from KK. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>As far as I can gather, Nicholas, you say that <<i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>y</span></i>> and <<span class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>i</span></i></span>> are <span
class=SpellE>allographs</span> in MC. So I would conclude that any systematic or regular distribution decided upon for RC is arbitrary and per se a feature of modern RC orthography and not ‘spelling as the texts’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“Everybody pronounces <span class=SpellE><i
style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:italic;mso-bidi-font-style:
normal'>gwyw</span></i></span> to rhyme with 'alive', which the SWF spells <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>byw</span></i></span> and <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>bew</span></i></span>.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I don’t know if this is true. The SWF/M form <<span
class=SpellE>gwiw</span>> has /<span class=SpellE>gwiw</span>/ which is pronounced [<span
class=SpellE>gwiˑʊ</span>], while SWF/M <<span class=SpellE>byw</span>> is /<span
class=SpellE>bɪw</span>/ pronounced [<span class=SpellE>beˑʊ</span>]. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>“Would it not be sensible therefore to spell 'worthy' <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwyw</span></i></span> and <span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwew</span></i></span>?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Nicholas”<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;
mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>I would like to see SWF/L <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwew</span></i></span>> either dropped or replaced by <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwev</span></i></span>>. I could accept SWF/M <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwyw</span></i></span>> if we were to spell <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>tyr</span></i></span>> ‘land’ and <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>hyr</span></i></span>> ‘long’, but if we have <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>tir</span></i></span>> and <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>hir</span></i></span>>, <<span
class=SpellE><i style='mso-bidi-font-style:normal'><span style='font-style:
italic;mso-bidi-font-style:normal'>gwiw</span></i></span>> makes sense on a systematic level. If, however, we are discussing the redistribution of <y> and <<span
class=SpellE>i</span>> in general, I’m open to discussing other options and suggestions. I do not find the KS solution workable in an ‘<span
class=SpellE>interdialectal</span>’ orthography such as the SWF as it doesn’t take into account the differences between MC and LC based forms. RLC users, other than <span
class=GramE>myself</span>, have said as much. <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=3 color=navy face=Gentium><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Gentium;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB'>Dan<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>

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12.0pt;font-family:Gentium;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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