<span style='font-family:Verdana'><span style='font-size:12px'>The element <em>-gloth</em> in <em>Cargloth</em> may or may not be an instance the lexeme CLEDH. And it is reasonable to assume, as you do, that CW ‹<b>cleath</b>› and Lhuyd's ‹<b>klêdh</b>› are cognate to B <i>kleuz</i> and W <i>clawdd</i>. This may lead some to reconstruct a MC form */klœð/. However */klœð/ is nevertheless pure conjecture. Not all scholars need necessarily come to the same conclusion regarding the MC phonological form. And even if scholars were to agree today regarding such a conjecture, ideas of this nature are likely to change at some point in the future. Thus we are building castles on the sand if we construct our orthography on such conjectural reconstruction of phonology. The Cornish attestations all have <e> or <ea>. It is better, therefore, to spell this word <cledh>.<br /> 
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                <span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: 12px">From: Daniel Prohaska</span></span></p> 
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                <span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: 12px">Sent: 05/15/12 11:29 AM</span></span></p> 
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                        I don't. I'm not a place name expert. It's quite possible I'm mistaken. I'll have to defer to the resident place name expert(s). I do, however, believe that CW ‹<b>cleath</b>› and Lhuyd's ‹<b>klêdh</b>› is cognate to B <i>kleuz</i> and W <i>clawdd</i> and that the reconstructed MC cognate was */klœð/.</div> 
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                                                                <span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: 12px"><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: 10pt">cleath</span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt"> (CW), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">klêdh</i> (Lh), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">cledh</i> (Pr); (<i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">pl</i>.)</span><i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><span style="font-size: 10pt"> kledhioụ </span></i><span style="font-size: 10pt">(Lh), <i style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">cledhiou</i></span><span style="font-size: 10pt"> (Pr);</span> </span></span></div> 
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                                                                <span style="font-family: Verdana"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-size: 10pt">While there is no *<i>cluth</i>, *<i>cloth</i>, *<i>clueth</i> or *<i>clevth</i> which would point towards a front rounded vowel, the attestations clearly go back to the full grade </span>*/klœð/ root (B <i>kleuz</i>, W <i>clawdd</i>) as there is no reason for a i-mutated /klað/. </span></span></div> 
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