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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=GD link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Even so, Craig, well worth doing amongst ourselves.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In a sense an initiative of this character is never finished – so work in progress will be much appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Two or three years ago a rather handsome map was produced, even though at that time there were few names to go on it.   I imagine an update would be rather more comprehensive.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>-<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>        </span></span></span><![endif]><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An ken Ken<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Craig Weatherhill<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 August 2012 12:11<br><b>To:</b> Standard Cornish discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I can do so, Ken, but it's an ongoing list and far from complete.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Craig<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8 Est 2012, at 10:02, Ken MacKinnon wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Craig,</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It would be very useful to publish this list.</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Even more useful would be an actual map.</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-left:36.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>-</span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>       <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>An ken Ken</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net">spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net</a> [<a href="mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net">mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Craig Weatherhill<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>07 August 2012 12:04<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Standard Cornish discussion list<br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As you all know, I've been worried about the apparent sidelining of traditional Cornish ever since 2008.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I currently advise the Signage Panel, and concern myself mainly with historic place-names, mostly in an attempt to limit damage done in the past (and which might be carried through) through insufficient research.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Obviously, this has to be done within the confines of the SWF but one significant place-name was decided by the Partnership, and not the Panel, and what they approved was not an SWF spelling (I think we all know which place-name this is).  I was, and still am, angry about this because, not only is the Partnership entirely unqualified to comment or decide upon place-names, but also because members of the Panel were close to agreeing a compromise form in which non-trad users lose a letter, and trad. users gain a letter.  My list, mentioned below, derogates from the Partnership's unacceptable decision, and gives the compromise form we were so close to agreeing before the matter was taken out of our hands.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>When the Panel was founded, its membership was well balanced between users of traditional and non-traditional Cornish:  now, the only voice for traditional Cornish connected with the Panel is me.  Nevertheless, the Panel members do work together quite well.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The Panel has so far decided upon about 300 historic place-names.  Bearing in mind that we are restricted to the confines of the SWF, I am quite happy to agree with all bar 16 of these.  I question 12 of them to varying degrees;  the other 4 (including the example cited above) I absolutely oppose.  Overall that isn't too bad.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>However, the master list is being kept only in the Main Form SWF.  So, to counter yet another sidelining of traditional Cornish, I am maintaining a parallel list which presents the agreed names in both main form and traditional graphs.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Craig<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On 7 Est 2012, at 11:28, Ray Chubb wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jenefer, I think you are beginning to sound like a gramophone record stuck in the grove.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We all know what the Treyarnon agreement was, the point that I have been making on this forum is that the Partnership is a public body representing Cornish and the whole of the Cornish language movement but since the removal of the SWF (t) glossary from the web site there is no indication at all of what native Cornish looks like.  The (t) glossary was in fact a very poor indication of traditional spelling but at least it was something.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>How can the Partnership accept public money when it represents only those who think that it is O.K. to tinker wholesale with native forms of Cornish?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I shall certainly be making representations at the next Partnership meeting to have a page on the web site dedicated to show what various orthographies look like including those of native writers.  If I am outvoted as I usually am by the politicians on the Partnership, (including the ones who speak Cornish) I shall take the matter up with Cornwall Councillors.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On 7 Est 2012, at 10:00, Lowe Jenefer wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'>Dear all,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I am away working at an event in Brittany at the moment and therefore only infrequently checking email.  However, I feel I must just set the record straight. My position and that of MAGA is to work to the agreements made unless and until those change in any way, via the review. I have sent out the attached document, produced by the AHG as part of the agreement and spec, many times, but it continues to be ignored. It has always also been available on the website along with the spec. It sets out clearly what was agreed on variants and on traditional graphs and it is that agreement to which we adhere. The agreement put traditional graphs in place for those who wish to use them, but was emphatic that this did not create another 'form' - it wasn't a case of use all or nothing of the traditional graphs. I think the paper makes the position at the moment absolutely clear. That is why we are not looking at a dictionary with traditional forms but explaining the alternatives available within the one dictionary. The online dictionary will enable searches for traditional graph spellings and should be available, once a couple of technical issues are resolved.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>We are very happy to accept traditional graphs in use - in newsletter articles for example, but it was never the case that they would be used officially and we have to stick to the agreements made.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Michael is right - SWF is not KK, the basis is different and we do need to keep aesthetic and linguistic points apart. This is exactly why the agreement at Treyarnon separated out the linguistic variants catered for by the Middle and Late variants from the aesthetic considerations represented by the traditional graphs. Trond was very clear on this point and right to be so.  That is why he originally termed the traditional graphs 'side forms' - meaning they exist beside and along with the official forms.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>And Michael - once again the initial information on the conference is available in the latest newsletter you have received. Full information will go out as soon as the details of venue are confirmed.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I may not be online again for a day or two but hope that this will help to explain why we take the stance we do in support of the agreement as made.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Yn lel,</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Jenefer Lowe</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";c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</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Arhesans Keskowethyans an Taves Kernewek yw provies gans an Asran rag Kemenethow ha Governans Leel, ha Konsel Kernow</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net">spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a href="mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net">mailto:spellyans-bounces@kernowek.net</a>] On Behalf Of Daniel Prohaska</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Sent: 05 August 2012 16:05</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>To: Standard Cornish discussion list</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I can't remember. It's likely I wrote to Jenefer or Elizabeth about it.</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Dan</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Michael Everson wrote:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> On 5 Aug 2012, at 14:27, Daniel Prohaska wrote:</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>>> I have offered to make a SWF/t version of the dictionary and my offer has simply been ignored…</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> Who was it who ignored it?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> Michael Everson *<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.evertype.com/">http://www.evertype.com/</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> _______________________________________________</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>> Spellyans mailing list</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Spellyans@kernowek.net">Spellyans@kernowek.net</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net">http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Ray Chubb</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Portreth</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Kernow</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Agan Tavas web site:  <a href="http://www.agantavas.com">www.agantavas.com</a></span></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><br><br><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Spellyans mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Spellyans@kernowek.net">Spellyans@kernowek.net</a><br><a href="http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net">http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net</a></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></span></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5185 - Release Date: 08/07/12</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Spellyans mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Spellyans@kernowek.net">Spellyans@kernowek.net</a><br><a href="http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net">http://kernowek.net/mailman/listinfo/spellyans_kernowek.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" noshade style='color:#A0A0A0' align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>No virus found in this message.<br>Checked by AVG - <a href="http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</a><br>Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5185 - Release Date: 08/07/12<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>