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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">There's a nice graphic illustrating this in Jon Mills' paper, 'Linguistic Relativity and Linguistic Determinism...' pg. 3 (you can find it at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://kar.kent.ac.uk/8401/">https://kar.kent.ac.uk/8401/</a> ) in case anyone hasn't seen it...<br>
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On 09/08/16 16:56, Jon Mills wrote:<br>
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<div>Prototypical <u>glas</u> refers to a shade somewhere between blue and green and grey. It can refer to both living and non-living. <u>Glas
</u>can refer to the colour of foliage: </div>
<div style="margin-left: 40px;">"war an pren glays mar a te yn pren seygh ha casadow sur yn erna fatel ve" [Pascon agan Arluth: 170] 'if it comes upon the green wood, how indeed will it be then upon the dry and blighted wood?'</div>
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<p>"branche olyf glase" [Jordan 1611: 2462] 'a branch of green olive'</p>
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<p><u>Glas</u> can refer to the colour of water:</p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"dun ganso dywhans touth bras | rak y worre yn dour glas | yu ow dysyr" [Resurrexio Domini: 2192-4] 'Let's go with him very quickly; to put him into blue/green/grey water is my desire'</p>
<p><u>Glas</u> can refer to the colour of glass:</p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"toul e in the wedyr glays" [Ton 1504: 1445] 'Throw it in your blue/green glass!'</p>
<p><u>Glas</u> can refer to the colour of grey hair:</p>
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<p style="margin-left: 40px;">Blêụ glâz [Lhuyd 1707: [3a]] 'gray hairs'</p>
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<div>In the following example, the dove's eyes could be blue, green, grey or somewhere in between:</div>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"an golom glas hy lagas" [Origo Mundi: 1109] 'the dove with the blue/green/grey eyes'</p>
<p>As Nicholas rightly points out, attestations of <u>gwer </u>refer to the colour of living matter, more specifically to the colour of leaves, grass and pasture.</p>
<p><u>Bloụ</u> is also attested.</p>
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<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"ny wysk blow ha more" [Bewnans Ke: 3064] 'We'll wear blue and murrey'</p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px;">"CÆRULEUS, <em>... C </em>Bloụ, † glas" [Lhuyd 1707: 291a]</p>
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<p><u>Glas </u>is a reflex of Proto-Celtic *glasto-. <u>Gwer </u>is a borrowed word from Latin 'viridius'.
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<p>The difference between these Cornish colour terms does not concern a distinction between animate and inanimate or between living and non-living. Instead the distinction is between shades of colour.
<u>Glas </u>embraces blue, green and grey and prototypical <u>glas </u>is a shade somewhere between these.
<u>Gwer </u>is specifically green, i.e. a colour of the spectrum intermediate between blue and yellow, as of grass.
<u>Blou </u>is specifically blue, i.e. a colour of the spectrum intermediate between green and violet, as of the sky on a clear day.</p>
<p>Ol an gwella, Jon</p>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 06, 2016 at 3:26 PM<br>
<b>From:</b> "Nicholas Williams" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:njawilliams@gmail.com">
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<b>Subject:</b> [Spellyans] bythwer 'evergreen'</div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">In his 1951 dictionary under ‘evergreen’ Nance suggests the neologism *<u>bythwer</u>.</font>
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<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">More recently it has been claimed that *<u>bythwer</u> should really be *<u>bythlas</u>, since
<u>gwer</u></font></div>
<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">refers to "inanimate" green. </font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">I wonder whether this criticism is valid.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Verdana"><span style="font-size:
                        14.0px;">In Cornish
</span><u style="font-size:
                        14.0px;">gwer</u><span style="font-size:
                        14.0px;"> certainly seems to refer to growing things and is not therefore simply an adjective for “inanimate green".</span></font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">Lhuyd gives: </font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana"><u>Kẏ guêr vel an guelz</u> [maga gwer avell an gwels] ‘as green as grass’ AB: 248c.</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">He also cites:</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana"><u>delkio guêr</u> s.v. Frons ‘a green bough with leaves’ AB: 61c.</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">Under Pascuum ‘Feeding ground, pasturage’ he gives
<u>Gueruelz</u> AB: 113c, where <u>gueruelz</u> [gwerwels]</font></div>
<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">is clearly a compound of
<u>gwer</u> ‘green’ and <u>gwels</u> ‘grass’.</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana"><u>Gwer</u> in Lhuyd’s day was clearly the ordinary word for ‘green’ when referring to leaves and grass.</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">For Lhuyd on the other hand
<u>glas</u> meant ‘grey’:</font></div>
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<div style="margin: 0.0px;line-height: normal;"><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana"><u>Blêu glâz</u> ‘gray [sic] hairs’ AB: 3a; W Glâs, Gray, C[ornish[
<u>Glâz</u> AB: 30b; Cinereus ‘Ash-coloured’ C[ornish] <u>Glâs</u> AB: 47c-48a.</font></div>
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<div><font style="font-size: 14.0px;" face="Verdana">It seems therefore that Nance’s
<u>bythwer</u> ’evergreen’ is perfectly permissible and indeed preferable to *<u>bythlas</u>.</font></div>
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