[Spellyans] Late Cornish adaptations

A. J. Trim ajtrim at msn.com
Fri Aug 8 20:11:33 BST 2008

If you are going to use the dieresis for the y/e alternation and the 
circumflex for the e/o alternation, please consider using the acute accent 
for marking unexpectedly long vowels (instead of the circumflex.)  Then use 
the circumflex for the alternative long <a> found in clâf, etc.


Andrew J. Trim

From: "Michael Everson" <everson at evertype.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 8:01 AM
To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Late Cornish adaptations

> On 1 Aug 2008, at 18:52, Owen Cook wrote:
>> 2008/8/1 Michael Everson <everson at evertype.com> rug screfa:
>>> You'd propose <Jôwan> and <Kernôwek>, then?
>> Not I: you would need to.
> Me? I don't quite follow that.
>> Unless we keep <ew> in Late Cornish as an umbrella graph for ew~ow.
>> Otherwise we have two <ow>s with different phonetic (and
>> phonological) values occurring in the same context.
> To mark these values regularly.... Let's look at it a moment. (I am in
> Brittany and do not have my books with me.)
> We do have some <bÿs>~<bës> words like (I believe) <bÿw>~<bëw> but
> that alternation is catered for. I am not sure how many of these there
> are. The SWF in §3.0 tries to use <y> as an umbrella graph for this,
> writing <yw> for what it says is [IU]~[EU] (it also claims to
> distinguish this from <iw> [iU]~[IU] which is a complete fiction).
> Apart from the verb 'to be' KS writes <ÿw>~<ëw> regularly, and KS
> rejects <iw> entirely.
> We could either mark the <bêwnans>~<bôwnans> [eU]~[oU] words with
> circumflex, or we could mark the <Jôwan> words with a circumflex. This
> makes me wonder if there are words in <ew> which don't have an
> alternation... in which case <bêwnans>~<bôwnans> is the better choice
> as we would be marking an alternation. We would then have
> <êwna>~<ôwna> 'emend' and <owna> 'fear'.
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