[Spellyans] The quantity system
everson at evertype.com
Tue Jun 24 23:57:22 BST 2008
At 00:50 +0200 2008-06-25, Koumanonff wrote:
>I've been surprised seeing in SWF that there's
>not long vowels in polysyllabics (in RLC ha TC,
Correct. Occasionally there are, but these are exceptions.
>In Breton we should have two lengths (as we
>learn in the teaching books). As far as I know
>there's three. Long vowels are found in
>monosyllabics, where they can be. Where it
>should be long in polysyllabics, where they can
>be, there are half long indeed. Is that it could
>be adopted by KK the three lengths from Breton ?
Yes. Ken George believed that Cornish and Breton were closer than they are.
>Though, I find strange that vowels cannot be
>long, under the stress, before the voiced
>consonants in Cornish in polysyllabics. As far
>as I know, they are also in Welsh. Why wouldn't
>they be in cornish ? Could you tell me further ?
One reason is that Cornish phonology was strongly
affected throughout its history by English. And
the one source we have for a genuine phonetic
record of Cornish, Lhuyd, shows no sign of more
than two lengths.
>As to consider the long consonants, they do
>occur in Breton, according to Canon Falc'hun
>(who had created the so-called "university"
>spelling of Breton), but my French ears (as I
>had been brought up in French) don't ear them in
>the dialects that I hear around me (Goueloù,
>Treger and Upper Kernev). Sure enough they had
They may have existed, but they are lost or being
lost. The same happened in Cornish -- long long
Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com
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