[Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site

Ken MacKinnon ken at ferintosh.org
Tue Aug 7 10:34:39 BST 2012

A Jenefer ger,


This is very helpful.


Do we know venue and actual dates of the forthcoming Language Conference in


Gans grassyans - Ken


From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
On Behalf Of Lowe Jenefer
Sent: 07 August 2012 10:01
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site





Dear all,


I am away working at an event in Brittany at the moment and therefore only
infrequently checking email.  However, I feel I must just set the record
straight. My position and that of MAGA is to work to the agreements made
unless and until those change in any way, via the review. I have sent out
the attached document, produced by the AHG as part of the agreement and
spec, many times, but it continues to be ignored. It has always also been
available on the website along with the spec. It sets out clearly what was
agreed on variants and on traditional graphs and it is that agreement to
which we adhere. The agreement put traditional graphs in place for those who
wish to use them, but was emphatic that this did not create another 'form' -
it wasn't a case of use all or nothing of the traditional graphs. I think
the paper makes the position at the moment absolutely clear. That is why we
are not looking at a dictionary with traditional forms but explaining the
alternatives available within the one dictionary. The online dictionary will
enable searches for traditional graph spellings and should be available,
once a couple of technical issues are resolved.


We are very happy to accept traditional graphs in use - in newsletter
articles for example, but it was never the case that they would be used
officially and we have to stick to the agreements made. 


Michael is right - SWF is not KK, the basis is different and we do need to
keep aesthetic and linguistic points apart. This is exactly why the
agreement at Treyarnon separated out the linguistic variants catered for by
the Middle and Late variants from the aesthetic considerations represented
by the traditional graphs. Trond was very clear on this point and right to
be so.  That is why he originally termed the traditional graphs 'side forms'
- meaning they exist beside and along with the official forms.


And Michael - once again the initial information on the conference is
available in the latest newsletter you have received. Full information will
go out as soon as the details of venue are confirmed.


I may not be online again for a day or two but hope that this will help to
explain why we take the stance we do in support of the agreement as made.


Yn lel,


Jenefer Lowe

Development Manager / Dyghtyer displegya

Cornish Language Partnership / Keskowethyans an Taves Kernewek

Cornwall Council / Konsel Kernow

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County Hall / Lys Kernow




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From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
On Behalf Of Daniel Prohaska

Sent: 05 August 2012 16:05

To: Standard Cornish discussion list

Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF (t) and Maga web site


I can't remember. It's likely I wrote to Jenefer or Elizabeth about it.




On Aug 5, 2012, at 3:33 PM, Michael Everson wrote:


> On 5 Aug 2012, at 14:27, Daniel Prohaska wrote:


>> I have offered to make a SWF/t version of the dictionary and my offer has
simply been ignored.


> Who was it who ignored it?


> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/



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