[Spellyans] yesterday's BIG surprise
ken at ferintosh.org
Tue Jun 5 14:49:06 BST 2012
What is the Cornish for "Hear! Hear !"
- an ken Ken
From: spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net]
On Behalf Of Craig Weatherhill
Sent: 04 June 2012 18:57
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] yesterday's BIG surprise
One of the internet trolls has remarked (I think in sheer desperation)
that Baner Peran was flown in deference to the Duke who was aboard.
Well, he wasn't. Not on the 'Gloriana' on which the flags flew - he
was on the same boat as the Queen and, moreover, he has his own
standard as Duke of Cornwall, the shield bearing 15 bezants (or) on a
sable background). That was not being flown anywhere, as far I could
see. (Which is interesting because it's also his Diamond Jubilee as
Duke of Cornwall, which he became the moment his mother acceded to the
The point, which some here seem to be missing, is that Cornwall was,
after almost 500 years, being recognised, quite obviously with royal
approval, as one of the constituent NATIONS of Britain, distinct from,
and equal to, the others, including England, whose flag was flown
separately. The only flag flown which wasn't a national flag was
the courtesy flag for the City of London in whose waters yesterday's
event was being staged. The significance of this is enormous - for
Cornwall and everything that makes it unique - including the language.
That Cornwall is a nation in its own right, and not an appendage of
England, is a huge admission and acknowledgment by the highest
possible authority in the land, and it was made to the eyes of the
world. We must take the very fullest advantage of this, as no one
can now argue with it.
On 4 Efn 2012, at 17:01, David Trethewey wrote:
> I think this may have been a last minute addition judging from the
> following links:
> http://www.flaginstitute.org/Thames_Pageant_Flag_Guide.pdf - where
> St. Piran's banner is listed under "county and regional flags"
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-18307741 - where a
> graphic shows Gloriana with 4 flags including what appears to be 2
> St. George's crosses.
> A cynic might say it is a sop to the Cornish after Prince Charles
> decided to concrete over the Tregurra valley near Truro for a new
> Waitrose to sell more Duchy Originals biscuits.
> On 04/06/12 17:00, ewan wilson wrote:
>> I too saw both it and at least one other Baner Peran on one of the
>> 'little ships', if my memory serves me correctly. The latter,
>> however welcome, might be expected on a Cornish vessel, but the one
>> on the Gloriana seems far more significant, as you say. It implies
>> somebody in the Palace is keen to see all the indigenous tongues of
>> these islands given due respect and recognition.
>> It ties in with my point on the potential power of royal example.
>> In proper deference to the request to keep this site in matters
>> more specifically linguistic I shall say no more, but hope you'll
>> forgive this one further reference, simply because it WAS so good
>> to see the old tongues granted due respect! I even heard part of
>> the BBC commentary - much of which was pretty dismal and
>> disjointed in my opinon- note the presence of the Baner!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbie Blackburn"
<kevin.blackburn1 at ntlworld.com
>> To: "'Standard Cornish discussion list'" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] yesterday's BIG surprise
>>> Craig wrote 'There flew Baner Peran for all to see'.
>>> I noticed that too - and also what I thought was a gig with the
>>> Baner Peran
>>> on as well.
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