[Spellyans] SWF Review

Lowe Jenefer jlowe at cornwall.gov.uk
Tue Oct 8 19:09:24 BST 2013

In the interests of clearing up confusion and establishing facts, please
note that 

1) the membership of the SWF Review Board was made public when the
appointments were made and was as follows:  Jori Ansell, Vanessa Beeman
(Chair), Albert Bock, Neil Kennedy, Maureen Pierce, Polin Pris, Esme
Tackley. Unfortunately ill-health this summer meant that Vanessa Beeman
had to resign and the Management Board then appointed Peter Harvey to
chair the group in her place. The other members remain the same. 

2) the two Excel documents are the only documents that have been
distributed to anyone outside the Review Board itself. 

Jenefer Lowe

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Cornish Language Partnership / Keskowethyans an Taves Kernewek

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-----Original Message-----
From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of
Michael Everson
Sent: 08 October 2013 16:21
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] SWF Review

On 8 Oct 2013, at 14:26, Daniel Prohaska <daniel at ryan-prohaska.com>

> I just wish to state here, as I have written to you, Michael, in
personal correspondence, that Albert is a real linguist and that I find
it unacceptable to call him otherwise. 

Albert is the editor of the specification, not a member of the Review
Board. (If he is counted amongst the members of the Review Board, it is
ex officio, which doesn't count.)

> Also, responding to Jon's proposal, I said he was the voice of reason,
I meant his statement of consensual reviewing and support of the SWF,
not however his proposal to remove and deface SWF signage. Ugly Cornish
is better than no Cornish! ;-) 

Incorrect Cornish isn't. 

> I'm sure many at MAGA are doing the best they can to accommodate all
positions which must be exceedingly difficult, and I specifically mean
Jenefer Lowe here. 

I don't get a sense that anyone in MAGA has looked at KS in any way
seriously. Or understands that KS is itself a revision of the SWF. If
they had, they would be in dialogue with us. 

> I remain interested in linguistic and orthographic discussions here,
and hope we can have more of that, while avoiding inflammatory
statements to give the linguistic and orthographic arguments
credibility. I'm tired of sound linguistic arguments crepitating on a
large scale on account of personal or emotional remarks. 
> Michael, I understand your frustration with the list of Review issues
and months later with the less than adequate excel file. I feel the same
way about it. I would rather see a detailed representation of the Review
issues and proposals to adjust the SWF accordingly. Maybe if we ask for
it nicely?

I have asked for it nicely. I asked for it in April 2013. 

(And I don't believe for a minute that members of the Kesva haven't seen
it, whether they asked for it or not.) 

Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com/

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