[Spellyans] The Cornish for 'to argue'

Ray Chubb ray at spyrys.org
Fri Aug 1 10:48:45 BST 2014

I have started to use 'argument' and 'agya' in my speech whilst  
reserving 'dathla' for the meaning debate/chew the fat. So far, no one  
has remarked on this which is good.

On 1 Est 2014, at 10:31, Nicholas Williams wrote:

> The default word in the revived language for ‘to argue, to debate’  
> seems to be dadhla, dala (UC dathla). Although unattested there it  
> has Welsh congener in daddlu. The attested words for ‘to argue, to  
> debate’ are argya, debâtya, dyspûtya and rêsna.
> argye na moy thy'n ny reys na keusel na moy gerryow PC 2467-68
> Ny thue les agen argya kyn feny oma vyketh BM 891-92
> argya orto ny ammont BM 3332
> mara tuen ha debatya mas an nyyl party omma ov teberth purguir ny  
> warth BM 3476-79
> cayphas re hyrghys thywhy a thos the ierusalem the dysputye worth  
> ihesu PC 1648-50
> rak me a vyn dysputye worth ihesu a nazare PC 1717-18
> Pan a vater a vea hemma thynny omma besy the resna warnotha TH 55
> ny amownt thymma resna genas noy CW 2395-96.
> A noun dal, dadhel (UC dathel) ‘argument’ is also commonly used,  
> although it is also not attested in the texts. The word for  
> ‘argument’ in traditional Cornish is argùment, pl. argùmentys:
> me a'n conclud yredy ma na wothfo gorthyby vn reson thu'm argument  
> PC 1659-61
> Na esyn vsya Argumentys mas vsya exampels Christ SA 61.
> All these items (argya < arguen, debâtya < debaten, dyspûtya <  
> disputen, rêsna < resounen and argùment < argument) are borrowing  
> from Middle English, which probably accounts for the popularity of  
> *dadhla and *dadhel. On the other hand argya, rêsna and argùment are  
> all attested in more than one text. This would seem to indicate that  
> they were integral parts of the Cornish lexicon.
> Nicholas
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Ray Chubb


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