[Spellyans] Dumnonia

[Ken MacKinnon]

Craig and colleagues,

I wonder where good old Iolo dug up Dynfnwall?

- an ken Ken

-----Original Message-----
From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of Craig
Weatherhill
Sent: 02 December 2014 19:07
To: Standard Cornish discussion list
Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Dumnonia

Ah.the famous "ancient triad" giving Boscawen-un as one of the Three
Principal Gorsedds of Britain.  One of Iolo Morgannwg's forgeries, I'm
afraid.  Rachel Bromwich can find no trace if it in the original texts.

Craig



On 2014 Kev 2, at 17:28, Ken MacKinnon wrote:

> A gowetha-oll,
> 
> I seem to recall a reference in the ancient literature to Boscawen-un
being
> described as in Dyfnwall.    The concept of Devonwall would therefore seem
> to have some attestable provenance.
> 
> - an ken Ken
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Spellyans [mailto:spellyans-bounces at kernowek.net] On Behalf Of 
> Eddie Climo
> Sent: 01 December 2014 21:49
> To: Standard Cornish discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Dumnonia
> 
> Craig whek,
> 
> For what it's worth, the Welsh for 'Devon' is 'Dyfnaint,' as best as I 
> recall.
> 
> Good luck with your project, and if I can be of any meagre help, just ask.
> 
> Oll an gwella,
> 
> Eddie Climo
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On 2014 Kev 1, at 21:37, Craig Weatherhill <craig at agantavas.org> wrote:
>> 
>> I want to represent "Dumnonia" in Cornish, but in its historical context.
> I want to avoid the current word for Devon: Dewnans (Dewnens SWF).
>> 
>> It's for a chapter heading:  "Kings of Dumnonia and Cornwall" in the 
>> book
> I'm currently writing on the origins of the Cornish people (entitled 
> "Centre of the Arc").
>> 
>> The name Dumnonia fell out of use c.800 CE (AD) and, apart from Roman
> period sources which give U and A for the first vowel, the only 
> spelling we have is in Bishop Aldhelm's letter to our King Gerent, 
> c.705 CE.  In this it is spelt:  <Domnonia>.
>> 
>> Has anyone a suggestion?  I'm considering <Domnony>.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> 
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