[Spellyans] Porth
menystror
menystror at kernowek.net
Fri Jul 25 13:56:03 BST 2008
Ken,
Could I ask you (and everyone else) not to quote the entire previous
message every time you post to this list? Expecially when your
comment is only a sentence or two.
That's good netiquette for everyone.
Thanks.
At 12:36 +0100 2008-07-25, Ken MacKinnon wrote:
>Yes standards of production by Will Coleman are very good. I shoukd olike
>to see the Spellyans group aim at something for younger learners.
>
>- an Ken ken
>
>(Prof) Ken MacKinnon,
>Ivy Cottage, Ferintosh,
>The Black Isle, by Dingwall,
>Ross-shire IV7 8HX
>Tel: 01349 - 863460
>E-mail: kenmackinnon at enterprise.net
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Craig Weatherhill" <weatherhill at freenet.co.uk>
>To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:16 PM
>Subject: Re: [Spellyans] Porth
>
>
>> Ken wheg,
>>
>> No, I haven't as yet seen the Porth productions which, I understand,
>> have been put together by Will Coleman - in which case, they are bound
>> to be good. Will performed wonders with his Sense of Place educational
>> project but, as usual, he was shamefully treated by the authorities and
>> got out of it. Rather as I did (although I was pushed rather than
>> jumped). As long as he can earn a living, he will achieve. It's in his
>> nature and his heart. The Cornish language needs something like this,
>> though. It is aimed at young people and it is to the shame of us all
>> that the younger generations have been neglected by all language
>> groups. Of course, the lack of opportunity to get Cornish into schools
>> (up to now, that is) has not helped but there has been a lack of
>> understanding across the board that, if Cornish is to have any future at
>> all, then we must target it at the young. Here, we can't point the
>> finger at anyone - we have all been to blame, including the Gorsedd.
>>
>> I can suggest to Rod that he puts his articles on CD. His pronunciation
>> is very good indeed, and his fluency is equalled by very few.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> Ken MacKinnon wrote:
>>> Craig, and friends. I was in the Bord na Gaidhlig office this afternoon
>>> and
>>> I noticed that a complimentary copy of Porth: CD and booklets had been
>>> recieved. I have had a bit of a look through it already. Yet to play
>>> the
>>> CD.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else seen this production. If so what do youi think of it?
>>> This
>>> is using and promoting the SWF. I seems attractive from the graphics and
>>> book production point-of-view. I would like Michael's view on the
>>> typrsetting, fonts etc.
>>>
>>> 'Porth' seems to be based on somewhere like Mousehole / Porth Enys.
>>> What
>>> do folk think about that as an introductory device to the language?
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in informed critique of this production.
>>>
>>> This is has now replaced the series of articles by Rod Lyon as the
>>> Kernewek
>>> feature in Cornish World. I shall miss these - and would very much wish
>>> that Rod could do a series of recordings of them. My problem as a
>>> distabne
>>> learner (seized up if not in abeyance) is confidence in the pronunciation
>>> of
>>> the language. (Spellyans so far does not allay this.)
>>>
>>> -an Ken ken
>>>
>>> (Prof) Ken MacKinnon,
>>> Ivy Cottage, Ferintosh,
>>> The Black Isle, by Dingwall,
>>> Ross-shire IV7 8HX
>>> Tel: 01349 - 863460
>>> E-mail: kenmackinnon at enterprise.net
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Craig Weatherhill" <weatherhill at freenet.co.uk>
>>> To: "Standard Cornish discussion list" <spellyans at kernowek.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:12 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Spellyans] More on bys/bes words and diacritical marks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh, now this IS interesting, Pat. Neither Nicholas nor I appear in the
>>>> Bardic roll. Yes, we both resigned our bardship, and the list could say
>>>> so. However, what the Gorsedd appears to be doing is to write our
>>>> bardship out of history. The facts remain that I was installed as a
>>>> Bard in 1981 for services to archaeology, and Nicholas rather earlier
> >>> than that for services to the language. Those facts cannot be discarded
>>>> simply by omission.
>>>>
>>>> However, if you then look at the list of Bardic Names, Delynyer
>>>> Hendhyscans is there, followed by the words "resigned" and Weatherhill.
>>>>
>>>> Someone at the Gorsedd is being disingenuous, I feel.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> Golvan, too is there, correctly identified (by surname only) as Williams
>>>> - but no mention of resignation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.gorsethkernow.org.uk/english/archives/newbards/bardic_roll.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.gorsethkernow.org.uk/english/archives/newbards/bardic_names.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the link to this years which were announced last week.
>>>>> http://www.gorsethkernow.org.uk/english/archives/newbards/bard2008.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> My apologies for going off topic Michael, but we have recently put 2
>>>>>> new lists of Bards on the Gorseth website which can be searched by
>>>>>> surname or Bardic names.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Give the URLs?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Michael Everson * http://www.evertype.com <http://www.evertype.com/>
>>>>>
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